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How Have We Never Seen This Before?
How Have We Never Seen This Before?

Season 2, Episode 12 · 1 year ago

Dash and Lily: “Thank you, Nick Jonas”

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In Season 2 Episode 12, Isabel and Lauren discuss Dash and Lily.

Join us as we discuss how boomer deserves his own show, our own awkward middle school drama, and how Dash is just a rip off of Jughead Jones.  

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... week we discussed and lily. Stay tuned to hear US talk about how boomer deserves his own show, our own awkward Middle School drama, and how is basically just a rip off of Judge Head Jones. This is a podcast where two best friends talk about movies they've never seen before. I'm Isabel and I'm Lauren, and this is how have we never seen this before? Marry Christmas and happy news. That was my jingle bells. Oh sorry, I completely talked over them with do you want to do it with me? Sure, Ting Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding. God, is that Sanna Sama's on my roof? Oh my God, I hear those bells. It's it's we're gonna get on the Polar Express. There's gonna be a jingle bell in our pocket. But, um, that's what we're talking about. Yes, we've seen the polar express, but we we hadn't seen dash and lily, which is the new Christmas series on Netflix this year. I don't know what like made them do this. Maybe they just did it for us because they knew we'd be ending around Christmas time and we were doing serious this here they were like, let's help him out, let's give him a give him a show. Do you know who is the one that that was really looking out for us? Nick Jonas, the Pretty Ser of this movie or this TV show. Are you serious? Yeah, Oh my God, the show is produced by Nick Jonas, which makes so much sense. Yeah, yeah, it does. Okay, we plan this, first of all. Second of all, we plan this. Like a month ago. We planned this. That's the main but the other point is that I didn't watch until today. I was like, Oh, can we record today because I've worked tomorrow. She's like, I'm to have a nine so I can finish watching in time. This is like at noon. This happened so because I hadn't started. It's been a wild week, but we promised we would be back in a week and here we are. We delivered, we really did. That was weird special. I personally love Christmas. I am Lily, I mean your dash this year. Excuse. Have you seen my room last week? You were what did I do? You were you didn't want Christmas. I didn't. You were dreading Christmas, but now that you quit your job, everything's funny. Yeah, guys, Love Life. Update today, I quit my job. Of that for me. But anyway, so dash and Lily, the Christmas love story of the year, because we can't do the Netflix cinematic universe, but our Christmas cinematic universally. What is this about? This is about these two teenagers that live in New York City and their journey to find love with each other by not meeting, just you, by like experiencing each...

...other. That sounds weird. What, what's the word? Like interacting with each other? I guess better. Maybe sure, acted, sharing some correspondence, pen pals? Yeah, through a notebook. Yeah, and like eventually they can meet, like that's the hope. Yep. And then it's a bit overview. You basically have the two Christmas tropes portrayed, the cynic scrooge type and then the cherry over the top Christmas connoisseur, if you will. Yeah, and I will. When this started and like getting into the characters, like it just made me I don't know why I'm like this right now, but like I felt like the characters were like, Oh, I'm quirky, I'm weird, I don't like this, oh I'm Porky, I'm weird, I'm different from everybody else. Do you know what? It reminded me of jug heads monolog in Riverdale. Just suys hat. I'm weird. I'm a Weirdo. I don't fit in the I quote all the time, all the time, whenever I'm wearing a hat. It literally dosh whatever. How you pronounce his stupid s name? His name is Dahl. Liked Robert Parr. Incredible however you pronounce his silly little name. He reminds me so much of Jughead Jones, and I think that's who his character is supposed to be. Now that you like say that and we've said that monolog I understand exactly. Where's those ugly cable knit sweaters? Discooston? Yeah, so, like Robert Parr, is make character. I don't know what his last name is anyway, all our main character. He he's a cynic. He hates Christmas because one girl broke his heart on Christmas. But what a stupid reason to hate Christmas really, at at Seventeen? What? Why would you break up with someone on Christmas? I mean, she was like, I'm moving back to Brazil, Brazil. Why couldn't you have said that the day after Christmas, or maybe two days before I mean lily did the same thing. Basically, yeah, these people, these people need to work on their communication skills. Honestly, every show, work on your communication skills. It's just frustrating. It's not like a good plot point, it's just frustrating exactly. And also, like, not gonna lie, there's going to be a lot of slander coming from me throughout this episode of Our podcast because I hate him. Okay, I I didn't like this show until the last two episodes. So I took a break after episode sick, and then when I came back episode seven and eight, I was actually laughing out loud, and I don't know if it's because I'm tired or because, like, it was genuinely funny and I like the characters out I hate. I can tell you it's because I'm tired. Definitely because you're tired, because, HMM, this show, you could get away with watching it in like one afternoon, but for me it took four or five days to watch the show really yes, which is way more than usual, just because I unfortunately hated it. I'm sorry, I...

...don't know how else to put it. I know it's for teens and I'm not a teen, anymore. I'm an adult. Honestly, I hate it. I hate being an adult. I wish I could enjoy this as a child at heart who will never grow up. I did enjoy this, especially towards the end, like this is my this is my like teenage romantic dream, like someone like sending you on a scavenger hunt throughout the city to like, I don't know. I think it's super cute. I am a sucker for a good or for any like romantic comedy. I think they're super great and it makes me have second hit embarrassment. But just because I want fantasy. See, I like I like the concept of the show. It's just I think a lot of the characters were flawed. Okay, yeah, Um, but not in like like a like this is their Achilles heel. Like I just hate the way treats people. And he doesn't change in the end. He's still such a Dick towards all his friends, even at the end. Yeah, yeah, he's like I'm a lonerm. It was what I do to mem but yeah, I'm a lone wolf. Like. Yeah, well, quick, since we're pretty far and already we've got boomer, who's dashells best friend, I'm going to call Hill, who's Dashall's best friend. I like boomer, I think he's great, and the the I feel like that's kind of it for like sort of main characters, a lot of side characters, a lot of family members that kind of come and go. I agree. I like boomer and I also like Lily's brother, Langston. Those are my two favorite characters. I don't care for anyone else, but again, I guess getting into it. So with episode one, we you kind of don't really know what's going on at first. We just see this red notebook being placed on a bookshelf in a bookstore and we know that they're in New York and it's December seventeen. So all this is basically just leading up till Christmas and then New Year's. In the last episode we found out there's this boy. I don't know that we ever get his name, but I know his name is because who else would be like I don't like remember getting his name in the beginning, but it just like comes up eventually. I think preya calls them by his name. Okay, so we just get this random, quirky boy who hates Christmas. Honestly, I didn't know if he was supposed to be a teenager or an adult. At the beginning it was very weird. We find out his parents were divorced and he hates Christmas, but that's basically it. So he's just wandering around New York City during Christmas because he hasn't no one else to do and he's just very cynical. And then he goes to this book store and finds this notebook because he's annoying and tries to reach shelve books because they're in the wrong place. Basically, on the cover of this notebook says do you dare? So it's all sort of Scavenger Hunt game throughout the bookstore and his first clue to fill out this like to fill out a phrase is French pianism, which is like totally random. And how would you even know the book was in there, first of all, but whatever, and he like goes through this whole thing and he find he figures out the clues and it's our. It's like, are you lonely this? Are you going to be alone this Christmas or something, and this girl named Priya shows up who is friends with dashes exgirlfriend, and she's like, Oh, come to my Christmas party, New Year's eat or Christmas pride, kind kind of my Christmas Eve party, and he's like, Oh,...

I'm gonna go to Sweden with my dad. Basically, that's when I realized that all these kids are just like protrecious rich kids, and I was like Oh no, but the next clue he's like, I'm yeah, I'm going to sweet it, and then it's she kind of just leaves. He's not actually going to sweeten though he lied. Then he like keeps going through the clues and the scavenger hunt thing and then he leaves, even though he's supposed to leave the notebook there for her to find again, and he goes to this piece of place with his friend boomer where's friends whom were works, and it's kind of trying to figure out what to do about it. I also thought he was an alcoholic at one point, like those to his dad's house. He's not there. Those Dad's not there and he just like drinks bourbon or whiskey all the time. Yeah, it's just like why do you put that in there? Why? No, seventeen year old boy actually thinks that that tastes good. Like yeah, sorry, but seventeen year old boys drink four locos. They don't drink their dad's brandy. It was it was so weird and like he did it every once in a while and it was like like why did you need to bring that up again? Basically, so we kind of find out his like reason for hitting Christmas. Like his parents are divorced. His mom thinks she's with his dad, his dad thinks he's with his mom and his friends think he's in Sweden, and we also find out that his old girlfriend moved back to Brazil, which is why they broke up. Sort of. I think it was because he wears awful cable net sputters. I mean she like try to fix his style, but then didn't. I don't know. No, she made it, or so I think. Yeah, so what he does is he sets up this operation to get to like figure out who this girl is. So he brings the notebook back and writes in it that she has to put the notebook on the shelf with the most oppressing like Christmas movie, because this pizza place is also a video sort very weird like where where their video stores anymore? Basically, it's a boomer will see her when she walks in he doesn't see her, but they're so we think. And then when he gets the when DAS gets a notebook back, he has to go and steal the hat from Santa Claus in macy's, and I was like, how a heck did she even make that like a thing where she can write her name on the Santa Hat? Crazy? And then we find out that it's lily, is the girl, and we like reverse back to December seventeen and we find out that she was a choir Sayer, or I. Caroler, in the park when he walked by. So they've actually met from the very beginning. That's enough episode one. I just don't understand why mainstream media thinks that everyone in New York City saints in the streets around Christmas time. Yeah, no one does that. You'll get shot if you do that. Yeah, no one wants to see. I have never, ever, ever, ever, had a carol or come up to my door or, to be honest, I've never seen a caroler except in a movie. Do they exist? Are you real? Hi, this is for the caroling community. Um, are you real? I just want to know, like, yeah, I know, I do want to know. I might join next year, probably not. I could not have you caroling. I have stage right. You don't when I'm on stage by myself, I do have stage right. I have so much anxiety I can't bro we were literally in a band to get on by myself. I said, if...

...you're there, I'm not worried. Oh my gosh, you no one. You can't see this, but I just tried to do the Debbie Ryan hair by the ear thing and it got caught on my headphones. Well, I found a quote in this episode that I thought you would appreciate. Okay, they're talking about St Nicholas and they say the St Nick in honor of Nicolas Cage. They say that. I don't know who says it, but I wrote it down. I said Isabel would enjoy this. Okay, when I'm writing it down, Isabel is obsessed with Nicholas Cage, in case you didn't know from previous episodes. Okay, episode episode two. Now we kind of get the whole thing over again from Lily's perspective. Don't know how they I don't know why they didn't try to squeeze us into one episode, because the pacing is like a little weird, I will yeah admit. So we basically get the same story, but from her perspective. So we find out immediately that she's kind of eccentric and only has adults as friends, which is weird. It is especially weird because she's only seventeen and like she's known these people for a while. So she was hanging out with adults when she was like fifteen or sixteen and some there. Her relationship with some of them is a little sauce. So we find out that her whole family is traveling for Christmas, or so we think, and is leaving her alone with her brother, Thankston, who just wants to have his hook up over Um. So she feels lonely, and so her brother and his hook up are the ones who come up with the notebook dare idea to meet people, and they basically write the whole first part of it, and she doesn't want to write back to because she learns that he hates Christmas, but she ends up doing so because she wants to expand her horizons because she does not have any friends. So we also find out that boomer knows who lily is because he caught her when she went into the pizza shop initially, but she doesn't want to know that he knows. If that makes sense that I could. So boomer is essentially playing matchmaker right now and lily kind of has the upper hand. Honestly, like I see more of a romance between boomer and Lily, like more yeah, they're more similar. They would make more sense. I saw that too, and I honestly thought that they were gonna like build off of that with like boomer trying to set them up, but then him liking her, and I thought there would be I don't know, I thought that would be kind of like cool. Yeah, then at the end, who boomer ends up with? Like, where does that come from? I'm sorry, I kind of love it, Mr Steel, your girl, like I'm but like, like it's fine with like what I know was what. It doesn't make any sense. They're not right for each other, but I think that boomer and lily honestly like perfect. I think. You know, I agree. I thought it was gonna Change Change Up. Yeah, so then after this scene where we find out that boomer knows, we cut to ceiling Santa's hat, and so he goes into macy's, santas lily's uncle boomer. So he gets kicked out and quote unquote band for life, even though that's not really a thing, and boomer makes becomes friends with the Elf, the grown ass adult Elf, and that's how he gets the notebook back, I think right. Or that's how he gives the notebook. That's how he gives the notebook to Santa, who gives it to lily. Yeah, and so and lily basically decide that they're going to exchange dare's and do the thing with the book without...

...meeting each other. And then it ends with Langston and his hookup are now suddenly in love. The timeline of their relationship is very weird because they meet on the seventeen, they become boyfriend boyfriends on the seventeen and then, like, it does not make sense. There really yeah timeline at all. And then, like he gets, they break up like two days later. Yeah, it's stupid, and then they get back together by the end. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. One thing that was like crazy to me is how she has so many family members that are just conveniently in these places around New York City. Like, I get having a lot of family members, like sure, but like her cousin is the bookstore manager, exactly where it's needs to happen. Her uncle is Santa in the largest maze's in the world. Her other cousin or whatever is the statue in Central Park. Yeah, I know it's it doesn't make sense. Like it. It all is a little bit too perfect, which I guess is like you're not really supposed to think of that because it's a teen show. It's supposed to be light harder. But it's just like unrealistic. And also I just hate like the dialog to it just sounds so forced and so cheesy and like even when they're trying to be like quirky, it's so like stereotypical to yeah, like I hate it. And then when dosh goes and whatever his name is, he goes into Masi's, Santa makes him sit on his lap. Creepy. That's Lily's all going you. Yeah, that was weird. That was weird. Yeah, like why did they have to add that in? Yeah, they're are definitely other ways and like I'm looking at my notes for the next episode I'm like, how did you like even come up with this? That? I will say that I get there. Yeah, so episode three were like really going on their day or journey now and when he says that she wants to get to know D for Christmas. So they like, he says, to like go to my favorite place, which is conveniently grand central station, before the first train arrives, because everyone's in grand central station first train arrives and we just know that it's empty and Blah. I thought that was stupid. What's so funny about it is how unrealistic that looks like. I've been grand central station when there are no trains coming by and it's filled with like homeless people, and they didn't show that. Yeah, it's it was just ridiculous. And then for her, she told him to go to central park and meet her cousin, who's The statue in Central Park who's just like staying, you know how they just stand there, you know, and just do what he does for ten minutes, which is weird. And then their next Dayre is like snacks, and of course his snack is super salty and her snack is really sweet, and we find out about her worst Christmas, which was when she gave out friendship with friendship braceless to everyone in her class at a dance and she gave it to the boy she like and then he like called her weird to all his friends and like drop the bracelet sad, no, that it was, and they were like all like just like on the floor in front of her. It was very strange. Can't they have found a better scenario that would be a little bit more realistic to couldn't they have found a trash can instead of glittering? That's your problem. Children...

...canceled. Children Two Thousand and twenty. Yeah, children are canceled. Party trending on twitter. Yeah, his worst Christmas was on his parents got divorced. That's that's interstand that's a normal thing to have a worse Christmas for. Yeah. Yeah, then for their next dare doesn't know what to do at first, but then he sees his two Jewish friends putting up a poster in the pizza shop and he's like, I gotta take this and seals the poster because it's a Jewish punk show. Now I'm I'm not from New York City, I don't especially like New York City, so maybe this is a thing and I'm just very ignorant towards it, but this seems very strange. Where did you come up with this? It's very niche. I guess. Yeah, yeah, I guess. So she's very scared to go. I don't blame her, but she looks very good, like she looks so good in her outfit. It's just like really trust to beer cute. And then I was like, oh wait, no, it's a drag show because there was like a drag queen outside, but then it wasn't and it was just a Jewish punk show. Yeah, that made no sense. I didn't know like where that came from. She's gets like within the first two seconds, she gets a drink spuilled on her and like runs us the bathroom, but then of course there's a note in the bathroom from Dash that says get back out there. And then she gets back out there and she does a crazy dance in front of everyone and then this boy that made fun of her middle schools somehow they're and then she loses her boot and forgets to leave the book behind and goes home and then GRANDPA's home and she gets grounded the end. I don't understand why she seems to think of being called weird as such an insult, like would you, yeah, why is being weird about thing? Like even like I get it, like I I was the weird kid in elementary school. You weren't oh it elements, you didn't, you didn't know. You didn't really know me then. Um, I didn't have any friends. But, like, I don't know, I found you and middle school I got friends. Like that's why I'm friends with you, because you're a little Weirdo. Thank you, but yeah, like, I don't like. It's like in insane to me that this one moment at a probably fifth grade winter dance would, which like isn't that bad of a moment, would scar you so badly that by the time you're seventeen, your only friends are these like twenty five year old carolers and your brother. I know it's a very like woe is me, because I'm weird and know one like can vibe with me. But it's like it's because she doesn't try to try to like vibe with people. She expects everything to be on her wavelength and not the other way around. Yeah, she doesn't like, I'm not saying like change yourself for anybody, but like expands, you know. Yeah, she needs to be more accepting of people who aren't as weird as her. Like, yeah, because they're accepting of her. Yeah, great, okay, episomble. So for Um. So goes to pick up the notebook from the Jewish punk band the next day and they say that lily never left the notebook. Oh wait, one question. It looks like they're um in like aloft now, but the party was in the basement. So, but he's like trying to clean up after the party. So, like how did you know? I don't know, I'm not too sure. That was just like bizarre. Yeah,...

Um, and it's really like ironic because in a future episode brings up how unrealistic home alone to is and it's like geography of New York City, but then the show doesn't same exact thing. Yeah, yeah, they're kind of all, like literally all over the place. HMM. Yeah, I mean I guess Oober's a thing, but traffic, yeah, it takes a while to get from one side of the city to another, but beats me. Yeah, so now has to try to find her using the boot that she left behind. My next line is just owned. Langston has covid that's what I was thinking. Um, Oh my God. The next day lily walks into Langston's room and he's sick with what it appears to be covid but you know, oh well. And she also finds out that she can't do anything because she granted by her GRANDPA, who came home from Florida early and surprised her. Also, we didn't mention this before, but her whole family lives in her GRANDPA's apartment and it's a really nice apartment. So yeah, yeah, so then, but it's rent controlled. Yeah, if it's the GRANDPA. Yeah. So then goes to who he thinks is Lily's house with the boot to return it, and it's actually her rich grand aunt in the upper east side's apartment, whose name is also lily, but lily calls her Mrs Basil e and she talks about her a lot. If that was confusing to you, it was confusing to me. But just know that Lily's great aunt will refer to her as Mrs Basil e because it's based off of that one book that where those two kids like hide out in the museum and run away from home, called like from the mixed up files of Mrs Basil E. Frank Whiler, is that what it's called? I think so. I've never read it, but I think really I love that book. It's so cute. But basically, Mrs Basil e will not help him because he doesn't love her. I think that's very understandable of him. Like they have an even met. She've been doing this for like four days. Yeah, year, she could literally be a forty year old Predator. So, yeah, it's true. Yeah, so he finally admits that he cares about her somewhat and she agrees to help. So then she comes over and starts starts to arguing with the GRANDPA and then he starts crying. Sorry, that's not funny. And then she leaves and we find out that the GRANDPA is home early because he proposed to his girlfriend in Florida and she said Nah, we no heart. Yes, she said no because New York is too cold and she doesn't want to move there. So then, lily, I believe, I guess, she doesn't end up convincing him to move to Florida. She tries to, but I don't know, not really know. Nothing came of that. Yeah, and I still don't know why the GRANDPA and Mrs Basilee were fighting in the first place. I think it's because she took her to Vegas. Oh right, random. She took her to Vegas one time to see the boom in group. I don't know, that was so stupid. So like specific, right. Yeah, yeah, so then lily and her grandpa go to the pizza place that boomer works out, because now things are suddenly better between them, and she hands boomer the notebook and then boomer just abandons all his work responsibilities to return the notebook to I don't understand. It's his character. Like I love boomer, but his character is just it makes me so...

...angry because he all he his purpose in the show is to please others. HMM, which sucks because he is a great character and I would have loved to see more from him. Yeah, Um, yeah, so he also apparently has a key fob to his dad's penthouse because he can just get off on the right floor. Don't know how that's possible. And then he he gives the notebook to and then goes to these houses that are decked out with Christmas lights and Law and ornaments to kind of instill some magic of Christmas in him. And then the episode ends with has exgirlfriend back in town and texting him. Yeah, so that's how it ends. I did have like one little comment about this really claims to be so lonely on Christmas, but her house is always filled with a lot of people, like there's always people in her house, like whether or not it's Langston, her GRANDPA, all her GRANDPA's poker buddies her, like his friends, like there's so many people in her house at all times that she considers family. So why is she so? I guess that's true. But like she didn't know her GRANDPA's going to be there, so she was going to be lonely on Christmas. But like way to like not care about your brother by saying, like I'm lonely on Christmas. Even so he's there, like what am I child? Liver rate? But I don't know, I yeah, he's a little far. HMM. Okay, so episode five is like talking to these people about his how is ex girlfriend is in town and he's actually talking to this group of older Japanese women because their next like dare was for them to sort of arts and crafty like make something, makes Mochi, and lily goes to an art pop up. Good what she makes? Yeah, yeah, okay, so Um basically eventually makes the perfect Mochi, but lily makes a muppet of of what she thinks she looks like, but then they're supposed to destroy it, at leat at the art pop up. That's like the point of it, but really doesn't because she's like not angry and doesn't want to destroy, like it's fun to destroy thing. Like why do you want a muppet of sorry, this is like when Blaine made a muppet of Kurt, thinking that's it was just weird because they were there was a gas leak or something. Or maybe that was another time, I don't know. But Anyway, after this art project, she goes to the park to feed dogs and then this guy from the from middle school, shows up because he's stalking her, literally, and then that's is he's like yeah, I'd like found your most recent tags on instagram and I found that every day at three o'clock or whatever, you go to this dog park, which is wild. Why would you ever do that or even confess to doing it's also, it doesn't make sense for his character because later on says it, he's like so he's one of like the popular kids, right and yeah, says that he just does whatever he wants, whatever he wants to. So, like, why would he care enough to do that? And then he and he like could clearly throws that out the window anyway, which like him carry about. It's just very weird. But anyway, now we see at home and he's wearing a robe and drinking bourbon again, and it was so weird. And His dad comes home with his new girlfriend and they go out to dinner, but is so nervous he calls his ex girlfriend, Sofia, to go out with them because she can somehow always make things better. This is kind of what I noticed. That is...

...a worst person than we thought. He's not just like lime at Christmas, because I'm weird. It's like he doesn't care about people's feelings because he only he's using her. Yeah, and while they're at this dinner, they he has this like good moment with his dad where he tells them like why he fell in love with reading books, but then that nothing ever comes of that either, unless you're supposed to be a second season, which no, thank you. But at the same time we're kind of like mix into lily story and we find out that Lily's brother and her boyfriend broke up. Her Dad is they traveled to Fiji because he's getting a job in Fiji. Potentially, and then she goes out and destroys a bunch of snow men because she's sad, like you couldn't destroy your own are you had to destroy someone else is. Aren't really get rid of them uppet right. So she goes to this poetry night that Edgar had previously invited her to and starts like telling all these feelings and blames Edgar for the way that she is because of this one thing he said at a dance and middle school and this girl, random girl the credits like, oh my God, maybe he liked you, and she's like no, I'm tired of boys like pulling her pigtails. And then that they liked us, which like good point, but good point, it's not like this one thing defined you in middle school at a dance. It doesn't make any sense. Like also, okay, that is a great point to make, and yes, people should like live like that. However, when you say in the same exact way that has been set on Tumblr like Fivezero Times, it seems like it's not genuine. Yeah, he just took it straight off of a tumbl tumbler thread, but he's like he stands up in the crowd, he's like I'm sorry, I will make it up to you if you go to this Christmas Eve party with me and Uder in claps like why'd like what? But we've been find out that is going to this same Christmas Eve party with Sophia. And that's the end of the episode. It's like ups and downs and will. I mean if you let something that someone said to you wants in middle school define the way that you live the rest of your life, I feel like that is more of a reflection on you than it is on the person who said something in middle school. We were all awful in middle school. Yeah, like, I don't really remember Middle School, but, like, I don't want to be the person I was in middle school. Like whoever I was, I don't want to be that person. Yeah, everyone says awful things to each other in middle school. That's just one middle school ors do because they're immature. I do have one defining moment in middle school when Lauren and I did not like each other for a little while because of this fight over who bought this one jacket first, and we had a sit down conversation about it. Or like, you're being rude because you think you this jacket first. It was so stupid and every time I bring it up you don't remember it. So it was clearly more defining for me than it was for you. So, like that's my point. No one wants to be who they were in middle school because we don't remember. I literally have no memory of that happening. I know you don't wait you on hear mind defining moment for you. Oh God, we got into a fight like one time. You were in fifth grade, I was in sixth grade, and it was because, Um, you and this girl who we will not name, teamed up against me because I would always, I would never wait for you to go to lunch. I've got so you guys got so angry at me for it and didn't speak to me for a few days and I don't remember that at all, like no recollection. I only...

...remember because it was funny. But like my thing was funny too, like it was so stute, like why would I care? I don't actually think I cared. I think I got dragged into and I was just like amy here. It was a time. It was a time. The only other defining moment from middle school is when someone called me fat. I carry that with me for the rest of my life now. That one was traumatizing. Yeah, these are the things that you remember. Like, I'm sure people called me weird, but don't remember that. Yeah, I'm like try, I yeah, I don't remember. There were there are few moments that I remember from Middle School, but none that shall be spoken aloud. Middle School, episode six. So the plot of this episode is that and Lily are going to the same party with other people. Has Been hanging out with Sophia. They're being friends but acting romantic. It's weird. It's weird, it is. It's weird, but not in the good way that we're talking about earlier. And so he takes her on one of his dares and they're they're eating pie with cheese on it. Is that a thing? I mean there's like cheese dannishes. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why, but I'm picturing like someone taking like an apple pie and just putting a slice of like craft Cheddar Cheek. Okay, that's definitely not what it was thought of. That makes me so grossed out. That's disgusting. It's not what it was. I know that's just what I have in my head, but yeah, okay. So Lily is also making this ugly sweater for the Christmas party and in the middle of it she starts yelling at her muppet. I I just can't, I can't, I know, stop with the muppet. Yeah, so then lily asks boomer for his advice, because she finds out that tells her that he's spending some time with an old friend, and obviously that means X. I'm boomer didn't know that Sophia was back in town. So he's like, what the Nope, no one's telling me anything these days. So now it's time for the PARTE. And why did I say it like that? God Damn it. Okay, so sophie and are there together and boomer is pissed because sophia is bad for because, you know, she just tries to change everything about him. She answers for him and so he can't really be his own person. Not gonna lie, his own person is awful, so I can see why she would do that. Yeah, so he boomer and him makeup, but he's like I'm Moren and you you better stay away from Sophia and tell me these things next time, and then he leaves the party to hang out with the Elf from macy's and they go to a movie together. boomer is a teenager, he's not an adult yet, and this man has like a full beard and he's old and washed up. I don't think that's right. No, yeah, so then lily shows up with Edgar. At this point I kind of like low key ship them together because they're like weird together. I don't know, I just second for one second because I thought that maybe he was going to be like a nice guy. It's something. He's not nice, it's just he's clueless. Yeah, so then immediately edgar just like dishes her at the Party and goes to like hang out with his own friends. I think Edgar might have UN diagnosed like Adhd or something, because he's like having trouble focusing on like like one place...

...to be. So like he's just bouncing around the party and he can't really focus on lily. And I don't think he's doing it to be mean. I don't think anything he does this to be mean. I think he just doesn't realize the impact that it has. Edgar is definitely an aries, isn't he? Yeah, yeah, he's an aries. So now that lily has been dished by Edgar and is like, Oh, I don't like parties because I'm weird and I'm quirky. Big they both have that moment and they start vibing at the Party together, but they don't know that they're the person from the notebook. So then someone decides to play truth or Dare and strip poker. Things escalate really quickly and Sophia dares to leave the party with her. So she blindfolds him. She takes him to the Morgan Library after hours. Yeah, I gotta Love Rich People. She does this through prey as connections and they decide to hook up in the museum whatever. Meanwhile, Lily tries to leave the party and edgars like, Oh, let me call you an uber, and then he's like, Oh, you've never been kissed before, and then they like lean in to start to smooth but then edgar finds out that they're surge pricing on Uber's and he's like actually, can you call your own Uber, and she's like okay, dude, if anyone did that to me I would have to yell at them. It was rude. It was so rude, so rude, but once again, I don't think he was doing it to be mean, I know, but why don't you have your own debit card and, like Ven Mown, she can pay you back? I don't know, maybe ven Mo doesn't exist in the Netflix cinematic universe, but like cash, certainly does. Hey, look your cash APP yeah, I mean, like Edgar is just a typical boy of that age, you know. Yeah, times Onezero, because he's an aries. Yeah, see. Yeah, the episode ends basically with Sophia and hooking up in this library. Yeah, just like Mrs Basiley Frank Will. Actually, that's not what happens in the book. They don't Hook Up. Um, my leg one thing is that I feel for law to thing I feel for boomer sucks as a friend to boomer Um. My other thing is that my mom would never let me go to a Christmas Eve party. Like Christmas Eve is family time what like. I could never go out to a party on Christmas Eve. I mean, if I went out on Christmas Eve, my mom would have my head silver platter at Christmas dinner the next day. I don't know how they got away with it, especially as seventeen year olds like. I can't even imagine, like any family just like packing up and leaving a few days before Christmas and just being like, Oh, yeah, we're actually doing a Fiji know, you know. HMM. Like just like the whole concept of this family just like up and leaving is very rude and like all of those other kids are just all allowed to go to a Christmas Eve party. That wouldn't not happen, I don't think. Yeah, like who is throwing this party? Like who's throwing down on Christmas Eve? Who would do that? whose parents would be okay with Kreya? Apparently? Yeah, I also think...

...that maybe Christmas isn't as important for a lily's family because I don't think that they're Christian. They I. I don't think they are, but it seems incredibly important because they always she said there's like a big pilot presents on Christmas morning. This is literally the next episode, so I'm kind of getting into it. But on Christmas morning there's always a big pet presents. Everyone's in matching pajamas and it's a huge deal because everyone comes over. So like I cannot imagine that they would all just like pack up and leave and not tell people. Yeah, like they wouldn't just like well, if this is going to be their last Christmas together, they wouldn't just like not do it. You know, yeah, that makes sense, but also it seemed pretty urgent that he goes to Fiji. Like it seems like he's not really like the position to be like, Oh, I have to wait, I guess, but like what it's just seems weird to me. So, like in episode seven, we find out about all these Christmas traditions like in Lily's family, and that's kind of where others all comes from. So and said, she goes to her aunt's house and she like makes this pun as Lily's leaving her grant's house and is like you don't have to like dash away or something, and she like almost gives up the secret. So, like lily, he's like connecting all the dots. Now she's like like I met him, like it was actually him. And then she goes to this bar where all her caroling friends are and then she just like drinks like crazy, is wasted, and then Edgar shows up and they kiss, but then walks in the door as they're kissed. It kissing and then like we go back to the night before where they're back in the wear dash and Sophia and the museum and before they like really do anything he's like, you know what, when I'm with you and thinking about Lily, so we can we have to just be friends. And he gets this update from an APP boom or downloaded somewhere in the first few episodes. That was not important. But they found lily, like they found the red boot in a bar, like they saw all girl wearing run red boot, like why would she wear one red boot? Like wearing two shoes that aren't like equal, like platform, not a good idea, but anyway, he so he runs the bar and she's kissing Edgar and then she's drunk and he's like, I'm going to take her home. Is Sad. And while they're in their card, though, he's like, Oh, you're nothing like boomer said, and that's when he finds out that boomer knew this whole time. And she take actually takes it to his aunt's house, her aunt's house, and he kind of just gives up the like the whole thing by he like leaves a notebook and the boot and like he kind of gives up. Lily's grounded because our grandfather shows up and then when she gets home, her entire families there because somehow everybody got back for Christmas and then dash and boom are fighting because boom Er new lily and didn't tell we find out that Lily's Dad got the job in Fiji and they have to move next week and it's kind of the end and says goodbye in the notebook and it's just like there's no way. Him just like getting the job and then having to move the next week to another country, like there's no way. You who put that together? I have so many questions about this episode. Yeah, there. Yeah, well, I mean, like, first of all, her Carolyn Group and bites her to do drunken Christmas carols. They know how young she is. So, Hey, how she even allowed to be in this bar? They didn't ide her be. Do any of these people have families? And See, why would they let this little girl who has never drank before drink so heavily? And also, you don't hallucinate unless you're drinking like absinthe. So I would love to know why she was hallucinating while...

...she was drinking. There's like Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then my other thing is that she had her first kiss this day, right and just comes in and like when they're talking in the car, he starts slut shaming her and like that. You, why would you speak to someone that way, especially someone who are trying to court? Like you were off smooching your ex girlfriend and then you see her like moving on because she she saw you do that, and you you immediately assume that she's like hooking up with all of these guys, like, how dare he have that double standard? I know, I know, that's okay. We'll move on to episode eight. Finally, Um, this nightmare is almost over and it's New Year's Eve. Is at the original book store from before, and lily return the notebook tod and is now packing all her stuff up. She's leaving for Fiji at midnight to night New Year's Eve, and Langston's like allegedly allowed to stay, even though he doesn't have like he's an adult, I guess. But Lily's about to be an adult too, so like why would she be allowed to finish high school and like live with her GRANDPA and tell them? But we find out why later. I'll explain it. But Um is blowing up boomers phone because boomers now like pissed off at because he like freaked out at him said some extremely hurtful things to him on Christmas and so like why? She's just an awful friend. He also like yells at boomer's mom for some reason, who already doesn't like him. Obviously we know why. And Yeah, what a great way to apologize. So then he sees that boomer is at a Jonas Brothers concert. So then he goes to the Jonas Brothers concert and you know Nick Jonas, Nick Jonas, do you really need to have the Jonas brothers perform in this show? Did you really think that that would be okay? Did you? Did you not think that that would be out of place at all? Are you kidding me? It was so random, so random. Yeah, and so he goes and finds boomer. boomer is there with all of his friends, which I love, like way to stick it to him. Like yeah, I love that. And then doesn't even apologize to him. He's like I need your help with Lily, and he's like Um, okay, great, and automatically everyone forgives him for being so mean to everyone. And then they they're all like no, we can't devise a plan to court lily here. We have to go somewhere else. So they go into Nick Jonas has trailer HMM YEP, to devise a plan, and Nick Jonas is just like hello. He doesn't seem to be put off that all of these teenagers are just like chilling in his trailer, but he gives some advice to about his proposal to Prianca, which is like weird, is not proposing, like they're better not be any talks of marriage right now. Yeah, so they plan his grand romantic gesture, and then we're back to lily story. Her grandfather decides to roast her in front of the whole family at this temple and then he says he was going to let her stay in New York but then she started getting into trouble and he's like I can't take care of you, rare. And then it's time for her to leave to go to a Fiji and dash left the notebook on her front porch,...

...but literally doesn't see it, like since he's it, and he's like, let me hide this for some weird reason, I guess for like closure purposes as to not like upset her and so like. Ston then decides to read this very personal letter to Lily, from which I don't think it's right, and then he sends her a picture of the page while she's in the cab sitting in traffic, and she's like Oh my God, and then she jumps out of the cab and runs to the bookstore to meet him. Has Decorated the book store for her like all this like Christmas stuff that he found from the Elf, from macy's. I don't know how he found Christmas ornaments for all their days that they've done in such short time, but that happened. And then they kiss and then it seems like everyone's problems are going to be solved because she's gonna stay in New York with Mrs Basili and her grandpas sometimes, but he's also going to be a Florida sometimes. It all seems to be going so well, but no one seemed to talk about how she's going to get the boxes that of stuff that she shipped to Fiji back, because all her stuff is just getting sent to Fiji, probably costing thousands of dollars. So now she has nothing. She has just her suitcase. Nobody she's an ever smootcase. She has literally nothing except the clothes on her back and that dumb notebook. Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah, I would love to know how she's gonna get herself out of this one. I feel like Mrs Basil will get her clothes. I feel like she is wealthy. Yeah, but if you remember correctly, Lily doesn't shop for clothes unless they're she makes all her cluthes, she makes all her clothes, so I guess she will just be wearing those ugly boots forever. Um. Yeah. So she's also trapped in the book store with now of somehow that's an extreme fire hazard. So yeah, I love that for them. And then Langston is back with his boyfriend. Their romance was kind of a roller coaster, considering that it lasted like what four days there? It started on the seventeen and then they got back together by the thirty, the thirty one, so it was just like a two week romance, if that. and Um, yeah. Then boomer is with Sophia, which I kind of like. I don't like them together, but I love the fact that boomers like bold enough to steal dashes x like yes, king, we still well wait. Back to Lankton is boy friend, I think, because so they broke up before Christmas and the start on the seventeen, so they really were only together for a few days and then they get back together on New Year's Eve. So like really they were only together for maybe, I guess like six days could be the Max. Imagine dating someone for six days and then being like their boyfriend and they the only reason they broke up is because his boyfriend was going to Puerto Rico for two weeks to visit family and he was like, I can't do long distance. Listen, you know how much trash I talk about long distance relationships. So this means a lot coming from me. If he's going away for two weeks, it's okay to be long distance for those two especially if he's just going to Puerto Rico. It's not like he lives m nine thousand five hundred fifty two miles a Web tenzero of tenzero. Sorry.

Yeah, and then basically also edgar is alone on New Year's Eve. Um, don't know why they needed to add that in. And then it ends with Dash and Lily Kissing in the book store, fireworks and background at midnight, classic the end. Okay, I realize now that I think I found it so funny because it was so ridiculous at the end. Yeah, like with Nick Jonas and then the GRANDPA like telling everybody what they did wrong this year and then giving them an envelope of money. Yeah, that, AH, that peculiar. So good. But yeah, yeah, Um, did you enjoy it? I mean at the end? I definitely did. There were like parts in the beginning where I was like, I hate this, like how am I going to get through this? But then I liked it. I think that boomer deserves his own spinoff show. I think boom work could be really interesting, especially with like him working at the pizza place, video store. I don't know, I'm intrigued. Yeah, I care more about his story than it. I think we need to cancel. I think the show should have been called boomer in Lily. Yes, maybe season two boomer in lily can end up together. I would love that, honestly, and then they can fall in love and the aunt will be happy. Yeah, okay, on this podcast we stand boomer and we not boomers, just boomer, boomer. Sorry, sorry to our like two boomers that listen to this. According to our analytics, Um, yeah, so I can't say that I enjoy this. Sad, it was very much I'm sorry. Go ahead, I was I wish you could have loved our last episode. Of the season. I mean it's I guess it's what I expected. That's unfortunate. I had low expectations. They were met. All right. So before we go for season two, we want into like discuss or like tell you our spotify wrapped for the year. But it's not a hundred percent accurate because this is only just spotify. We have listeners on other platforms and we love you just as much, if not more. We let me pull up. Yeah, we have listeners on how many countries? Let me look it up. I have our sound rount and I'll let it sell right now. Well, I'll read the spotify ones while you pull up sounder. Sounder is our hosting platform and we love you, thank you very much. But for spotify, we had listeners from five countries. We dropped over a hundred and a hundred. Yeah, definitely more than a hundred. We drove over Onezero, one hundred and thirty nine minutes of content, and this doesn't include our last five episodes. I don't think it stops in like October. So definitely a ton of minutes of content and which is crazy. And I guess that's it. I have our wine's going to read them. I have our sounder analytics right now. Up this year we had listeners from fifty two countries. That's crazy, which is really amazing. Like I probably can't even name fifty two countries. So love that. Thank you to all our non American listeners. Um, let's see what else. Most people listen on their mobile phone.

Most people also listen on Apple podcasts and we appreciate you. Yeah. So thank you to everyone who's listened to us and supported us and shared our episodes, because we've experienced a lot of growth this year and couldn't have done it without listeners and you guys, and so I appreciate you. I appreciate you too, and we've got exciting things not planned for the new year, but we will have them. We're bout to shit movies. We're we will work harder to post consistently. I think we'll be able to do it. I agree, and we are. Also, we know how to do it now. We're going to do videos so you can see. I lovely for pieces and we're going to work on not saying and like and we're going to keep our spaces in between our words shorter so there's less to edit, so everything looks clean yes, ma'am, we got this. We got it. I'm so say. We hope you have a very happy holidays, whatever you may celebrate or not celebrate, whatever you want to do, and we hope you have a great new year and that everything it's better than this year. Yay. Please stay safe, to and wear your masks. Yeah, Wash your hands. But that's it from us for two thousand and twenty we'll see you in the new year. See you guys in two thousand and twenty one. Okay, okay, bye, bye. Hey, congratulations, you've made it to the end of our podcast. We hope you enjoyed listening. How have we never seen this before? Is produced by is Bo barone. The music is by Scott Holmes. The podcast art is by Michael Beaumont over at monitor comics, and our social media is run by Lauren Cola. Thanks for listening.

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