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How Have We Never Seen This Before?
How Have We Never Seen This Before?

Season 2, Episode 3 · 2 years ago

Never Have I Ever: " Normal Teenagers End Up in Prison, or Worse, Working in Jersey Mike’s"

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In Season 2 Episode 3, Isabel and Lauren discuss the new Netflix series, Never Have I Ever. 

Join us as we talk about how Devi is the modern-day Georgia from Angus, Thongs, and Perfect Snogging, how high schoolers can be really frustrating, and how much we love Principal Figgins from Glee. 

If you want more from How Have We Never Seen This Before, feel free to subscribe on Apple Podcast and Spotify, and give us a follow on Instagram at @howhaveweneverpodcast!

Also, shout out to Michael Beaumont @monitorcomics for our podcast art!

Thanks for listening!

Hello, welcome back to have you never seen this before? This week we discussed the show. Never have I ever stay tuned to hear US talk about how Davey is the Modern Day Georgia, from Angus, thongs and perfect snogging, how high schoolers can be really frustrating and how much we love principle higgins from Glee. Wait, it's figgins right. This is a podcast where two best friends talk about movies they've never seen before. I'm Isabelle and I'm Lauren, and this is how have we never seen this before? Hi, everyone, and welcome back to how have we never seen this before? This episode is season two, episode three already, I guess, and we watch never have I ever, and all before we describe the show, I guess. This show was suggested to us by two of well, one of Lauren and my friends, and then another, one of my friends Lonnie and my roommate, a lie. So thank you for telling us to watch this. I don't know what you think about it yet, so I don't know if you're like good, thank you, or like why do you told me to watch this? But Um, so, this show was rated by mini kaling. It follows Davy. That right yeah, I think. Okay, Davy, an Indian American girl and her friends through her sophomore year of high school and pretty much just like their friendship troubles, relationship troubles, family troubles. I guess you could say it's like a coming of age series, which is what we like. So we love coming of age show the movies. Yeah, so for this we're going to kind of structure like we did love in the time of Corona. Hopefully we follow that. We're going to do characters and then each episode kind of favorite plotlines, least favorites and things that stood out. So if you want to explain the characters for us, Lauren, okay, so I guess we'll start with Davey. Her name is Davy Vishu Kumar. She lives in the San Fernando Valley. She's the main character. She's sophomore in high school. She's very interested in being a typical American girl, whatever that kind of entails. She plays the harp and Orchestra and she kind of reminds me of a Modern Day Georgia from Angus, thongs and perfect dogging. Yeah, and is yeah, it really does. She has kind of the same character flaws in which she wants to be popular and get with the popular guys at school and kind of sometimes leaves her friends out and abandons them to rise up in the social rankings. So that's her main character flaw and that's a problem throughout the whole show. But also one thing we find out in the first like two minutes of the show is that her dad just died. So it's it's also kind of following her story of how she handles her grief and or or doesn't really handle it for a while. And there's also like in how she handles her relationship with her mom now that it's sort of just the two of them. Yep, totally forgot about that whole part, which is the biggest part of the show. Yeah, so, yeah, moving on to her mom. Her Mom's name is Nelini. She is a...

...vegetarian, which we have no choice but to stand. She is a dermatologist and yes, she she's kind of dealing with her husband recently passing and raising a daughter all on her own and she is kind of a strict mother. So then we have Mohan, who is is debby's father. He's also a vegetarian. So we really have no choice but to stand. He had a heart attack and that's how he passed away and he's kind of a Daddie. Honestly, I know he's not alive. I I really like her dad. He's a his the actor seemed very familiar as well, but, like her dad, seemed like he was a really cool guy. Oh, he was so cool and, you know, easy on the also, this show it's narrated by Mon's favorite tennis player, which, like I it's not really like a character treat. I guess it is, but I know I found that weird. But what that was my favorite part, his narration. I just did the narration was fine. I just didn't know why they like went with him. Like I get that it like like this kind of a connection to her dad, but I don't know, it just seems like within the first like minute or two, when they like were like, I'm this tennis player, I was like why, like why should we just say his name? Know His name, Oh, John McEnroe. Okay, yeah, no, but I honestly think, in my personal opinion, that he made the show. Like without his narration it would have been like not as funny at all. Yeah, I like I liked his little cameo at the end, though. Yeah, I just personally think that without his narration the show would not be as funny. His Witty oneliners really really made me laugh a lot, a lot better than the UMLUB island narrator for the US version. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, so there's also dabby's two best friends. I think they can kind of go together, Fabriola and eleanor. I thought it was pretty cool that they were people of Color. It wasn't like you know when there's like the three friends and then there's the the white girl, the White Guy and then the black best friend or whatever. I don't know. I think it's nice that they deviated from the stereotypical friend group for shows like this. But so they've been friends forever. Fabuols really into like electrical engineering and building robots and Eleanor's really into theater. So they both I don't know if I want to say they're like things, like they're big. I guess you you could say like they're they're big things, like they're big struggles. Okay, so Fabulo really is struggling with her sexuality and talking to her parents about it and even her friends as well. And Eleanor her big struggle is kind of coping with her mom having left when she was when she was really young, but they're still in contact, and just the way that that has been affecting her career and how she or like what she wants in a career and how she connects with people. I guess you could say I don't want to say too much because that's like part of the reveal in later episodes. Okay, so there are two main guys in the show who are in Devy's classes, and one is Paxton, who's her crush. He's a...

...swimmer, he speaks Japanese and he has three fan tumblers and also he kind of looks like a thirty year old man. Is that just me? Yeah, okay, he looked very like everyone else, looked like they were the age that they were playing, but he looked oddly old. Yeah, and I understand that he's supposed to be like one or two years older than her. Yes, he was held back a year, but he has wrinkles. I feel like it makes me so weird. Yeah, Um, do you have anything to add to Paxton? Um, no, I mean he's he's half Japanese and that I guess he's. His daddaught him Jepanese. Yeah, Oh oh, we forgot to add that. While I for I forgot to add that. He is like one of the popular kids at school. Oh yeah, and he also has hmm. He also has a sister named Rebecca, who's played by a girl with down syndrome, and she also makes a show. She's good, she's great. I love her. I love her, and she works at Old Navy and she's an aspiring fashion designer. So, you know, just cooler than anyone else. And then you have the other guy, Um Ben Gross, Dev's arch nemesis, and he created this awful nickname for Davey and her friends called the UN, and that either stands for the United Nations, which is pretty racist, or UNFECKAL nerds. So he kind of you think he sucks at the beginning, but then you find out that there's more to him than just being a jerk. He competes with her academically and that's why they're their nemesis, and I think his insults are pretty funny. I kind of love him at the end, especially because you kind of find out that he's just sad and lonely and he doesn't have any real friends. His parents are awful, and once like him and Davey start to realize that they have more in common than you think, they become good friends, and he's actually a pretty good person. Yeah, I think they they really like challenge each other, which is like ever since they like made up this thing in middle school, I think, where they split all the the clubs and activities so like they wouldn't interact with each other but they could each have like a lot of things, and I think that like really pushes Davy and and been to be better at school. Like Davy's dreams to go to Princeton. So that's kind of her. I guess it's like not an ultimate goal, but like it's like an underlying goal, I guess. Hmm Um. Oh, and then the last person, unless you have another person. Oh you more. Can I just add something to the Gross Um. So then grosses mom is played by Angela Office, and that was so unexpected, but I love her. Yeah, I was like, Oh my God's Angela. But the last like mains side character, unless there's one I'm for getting, is Davey's cousin, Kamala. She is a matt. She's getting her master's at Caltech. I don't really remember biology. I think she's a biologist and her story line is that she's well, she moved in with them...

...after Mohan died and she's being put into an arranged marriage and it's kind of like how, how does she want to manage that, because she also has a boyfriend and she doesn't. She's like do I I have to have this this duty to my family, or do I be with this guy who I really, really like? So they're just like her story and how she manages that, which is which is actually I really like her. It's pretty interesting. I really like her too. And another thing that's kind of like one of the plot points in the show is that she is like the perfect kid. Um. She's really beautiful and she's a really good student, and so Davey kind of feels jealous and resents her a bit and that's kind of a point of contention because she thinks that she's perfect. Yeah, so I think that's everyone. There's like some there's like side characters like friends and boyfriends, but they don't really play a huge role. So I guess we can get into episode one. Okay, cool, I don't remember what the title this episode was. They're all like never have I ever dot that dot something. But I mean the main plot line of this episode is that we find out that her dad is passed. It's kind of like a background episode, I'd say, and I guess like when I was watching this first episode, it made me I did I didn't think I would like the show because, like so there's this like thing that like comes up within the first five minutes and it's like after her dad passed, all of a sudden Debbie's like stopped working for three months until she like saw packs and take off his shirt and then all of a sudden she stood up or something, and I don't know, it just like it sat with me the wrong way, like they just kind of threw in her having a disability and her life being over because she had this disability and then all of a sudden she had the use of her legs again and it was just, I don't know, it was just like basically saying her life is so much better now that she has working legs, and I don't know, it just like sat with me the wrong way. HMM. And like another like thing like this is she's also like as soon as she comes back to school, she's like, like we need to be cooler this year, and she like tells her friends, I need to change the way they dressed, change kind of the way they they talk and they act, and then she's like and I'm going to try and date this guy who I think it's probably gay, just so I can weazle my way up. I don't know. It like that whole first episode I really didn't sit right with me. If you have I don't know, like what did you think about that? Yeah, I do agree that if they could have gone about it in a different way in the sense that either make her have a disability or don't. But I think the show kind of it doesn't touch on it heavily, but I think it shows that even when Davy has full ability in her legs again, her life is not perfect. Also, she has many flaws and it really bothers me. But I understand that the main character, especially someone who's a sophomore in high school, should not be a perfect person and I don't know, like she's very immature. Yeah, but I think the like I get what you're saying about how, once she has like use of her legs again, it's not like her life is perfect, but I I feel like they just grazed over it and it was just like this thing that didn't like. There are different ways people handle grief and and I completely...

...understand that, but I just felt like it felt like they put it into make her quirky and like people would make fun of her for that, for her one day at school, and then it was pushed to the side. I don't know, it's it felt really weird to me. Is I real way that people handled grief? Does that actually happen? I I I would believe it is. Like you just like are so overwhelmed with with things that you just can't function in certain ways. But I I've since this is sort of based on mini kalings life, I wanted to double check that, like maybe that did happen to her, but it was not something that ever happened in her life. She didn't lose her parents and she only, I think, lost her one of her grandparents like later in her life. So if it had been part of her quote quote, story, then I would have understood it being in there, but I wasn't that. I I still don't get it. I don't really have a high point for this first episode or like. That was like really what just stood out to me and stuck with me for that entire episode. So if you have any good parts for this episode? So it gives her background, but then it also goes through her first day of school, and so we kind of are introduced to everyone, like her friends, Paxton, been gross Um Kamala, her therapist. Oh, true, I forgot about her therapist. Throughout the show, the therapist kind of wants her to be able to process her grief and is trying to have some sort of breakthrough with her. But I'll devy wants to do is talk about boys at therapy. Yes, so, so her first day of school doesn't go very well, because, don't she's still kind of invisible, even though she has full use of her legs. Again, no one really remembers anything that's happened, except they just think of her as the girl who's Dad died at an orchestra concert. Yeah, and she also believes that she saw her dad in some sort of dream or vision the night after her first day of school. And she also makes a pact for this year to be considered a cool kid, because her and her friends are kind of nerdy and so, Oh, I wrote for this episode. I said prediction. I Bet Ben and Davy are getting end up. Yeah, I was thinking that the whole time. To spoiler, they kind of do. Yeah, it's kind of like we don't know. Season Two will determine, I guess. Yeah, but Davy also finds out that eleanor is dating this boy and she's freaking out because she thinks that eleanor is kind of weird, like weirder than her, and so she's like if eleanor can get a boyfriend, how come I can't? And so she talks to her therapist about it after having a breakdown and smashing glass, and her therapist thinks that they've were reached some sort of positive agreement and she goes back to school and asks Paxton to have sex with her and like just straight up says hey, packs and will you have sex with me, and he says yes, and then she writes it in her Grief Journal. Yeah, that's has episode ends. Um. Also, I don't think her impacts and I've ever spoken before. Yeah, he doesn't. This is just like, yeah, he doesn't know she exists. But I guess like my high moments for the episode I related to some of their like high school high school issues, I guess, like the stal ones,...

...like when she's praying and she says I would love for my arm hair to thin out. I love that because that's me. And then Um Fabriola says that when the day that they're supposed to like dress cuter, fabriola usually wears a boy's medium Polo, and when they're supposed to like dress cuter or whatever. I used Air quotes, she decides to wear a men small Polo. That kind of reminds me of us in high school, because we to wear polos. We're different color skirt and then you're cuter that. Yep, today I'm wearing my pink Polo instead of my Navy Polo, but it still looks like a trash bag on me. Yeah, yeah, the first episode didn't leave me in a good spot, but I was ready to keep going. Yeah, so for the second episode, it likes starts right off with Debbie dreaming that Paxson like shows up at our house and it's going to have sex with her. And I like guess this episode like kind of like sat funny with me too, because she like like I get it now, because it's it's very high school. It's very like these are things that happen in high school. You like you want your friends to think you're cooler than you are. I guess because she so she lies about having sex with packs in like they they assume that she does and she doesn't correct them. So I don't know, that's just like I knew that would come back to get her. So that, I don't know, I was like that was like weird for me, but I also one thing I really liked was when they're trying to learn about sex and like they take it like it's a test. If so, they're they grabbed tow stuffed animals and they like show moves with the stuffed animals and like they're quizzing each other, which I thought was really funny. Yeah, Oh, another thing that happens in this episode is that Davy says that she wishes the Nazis would kill Ben and they've both. Yeah, they both, which is Hoffl they both get in a lot of trouble and then they kind of have a weird heart to heart. So that's when you kind of first see that that like softening up between them, which I think is cute. We all, we also meet packs and sister in this episode because Debbie goes over to Paxson's house so sex with him, but then freaks out and go to the bathroom and then accidentally runs into a sister and he packs and gets really upset with her for he like thinks she's like been wandering around his house, but he then apologizes later, just because he's so used to sister getting bullied. He didn't want like, I don't know, like I guess, like not to find out about her, but to for her to be mean to his sister, which, like, I know, I thought that was him explaining, like what, how he took care of his sister when they were younger. He said that he sat by her like when she was adopted. He sat by her bed every night with a NERF gun to protect her, which was sweet. HMM. What I kind of like going off of that, what I like about this show is that, like, on the surface, each of these kids seems like a normal high schooler that fulfills some sort of stereotype, um, but their home lives tell a completely...

...different story, and so you understand why they act the way that they do, like why been gross acts the way that he does, why Paxton acts the way he does, and so I kind of like that, because everyone's met these types of people in high school and you all judge like we all judge them, but really there's more going on. Yeah, we. We also forgot to say something. I would rise. You didn't say it. The episode starts with her reading after. That's what she I didn't even see that. Yeah, she's reading after. Oh my God, grow after my own heart. Oh my God, you, I had no idea. Oh my God, wait, there are a lot of cringey things that they said in this episode, looking at it now. So what I wrote down was that Davy said, as I'm ready to bone, say that that means you're not. I'm sorry, don't ever say that, because that's exactly what our therapists yes, exactly. Oh, one part that kind of made me laugh was that she said hot people don't have problems to her therapist and then says I've seen your waiting room and no offense, but they're mostly ugoes. She goes, she calls everyone ug like Davey. So annoying. Yeah, Oh, and then one of the one of her friends, describes Paxton's, you know, little path. I can just bleep it out Paxton's Um. She describes it through his sweatpants like a pepper grinder, and then Davy says that she won't be able to walk the next morning because she's about to go get railed. Yeah, that's all. I don't say that. Yeah, cringe all around on that. I I would never say that. Like this is the exact opposite of my personel. I don't think I would say that either, though I'm not saying you would either, but like, no, I could never know heart. Yeah, so I guess moving on to episode three. Unless you have anything else to add, I don't think so. Okay, they started off by doing a tick tock challenge and cringey kind of cute. I like how in the middle of it her mom comes out and make our debby's mom comes out and makes her put on a t shirt underneath. They're like wearing these like skin tight dresses and her mom comes and makes her put a t shirt on underneath. I love that. I just don't think mainstream media should be using tick tock because, yeah, the boomers who produce the shows don't understand would what tick tock is really yeah, yeah, another part I really liked about this episode was the history teacher. He seems so cool. Like I guess you didn't. I thought he seemed really cool. I've wrote everything this man says is Cringey, but like, I would have loved the history teacher like that. Are you serious, like trying to find ways to engage with the kids instead of just like lecturing at them? Do you not recall the part where he says that they're going to talk about slavery and points to Fabriola and then points to Ben when he says they're going to talk about the Holocaust? Not that part, I mean like the projects he comes up with. Okay, but if I were in AP history, I...

...would not want to be learning about an APP idea for World War II. I would want to learn how to take the test so I don't have to take history in college like a normal a normal history class, though. I don't know. I don't know, man, I'm not all right. Thanks, never mind. Never mind. Also, you, in this episode, you kind of see that Fabrul is struggling with her sexuality. She seems to be attracted to this girl that she's paired up with for this group project that they teacher gives out, which may or may not be interesting, and she really doesn't understand it and doesn't really know what to think about it because she doesn't know what her family will think and kind of like freaks out when this girl eve invites her to a queer youth event, which is which is really nice, like a way of like just being like, this is an open space for you. I thought they did that really well. Yeah, but she was so mean to pour eve. Yeah, fabulous, like really like really shut her down. But I understand like why she could. Like she's really just come to this realization at the beginning of this episode and then it kind of progresses really quickly. So I think it's was just like a lot for her. Also, what's what else? The other thing that's happened putting in this episode is that Davy is now in a group project with Paxton and some other popular guy named Trent. Yeah, and they only picked her because, well, now she's like friends with Paston kind of, but they only picked her because she's smart and trends kind of dumb. Or Yeah, Trent is very dumb, but Paxton, he's been held back from school, so he's been struggling academically. Yeah, also like, now that she has this connection with those two, she gets invited to, sort of invited to Trent's party. She kind of invites herself. Yeah, she kind of revicts herself. But so the big thing this episode is that she gets really drunk at the party. And then at the beginning of the episode she thought she had seen her her dad as a coyote in their backyard because the coyote picked up her dad's tennis ball. And at this party she sees a coyote in the backyard and goes to talk to it like it's her dad, and then the coyote attacks her and bites her and they like call her coyote girl after that. Yeah, but she kind of gained some popularity through that because, yeah, went viral. Oh, and Paxton takes her to the hospital and they kind of she thinks that they're sharing some sort of moment. Hmmm, and then he goes out, this is why we're friends, and then she her heart is broken, along with her arm. He also like takes a picture with her in the hospital bed and post it on his instagram. Yeah, it's so weird and she's like, Oh, you're going to grid post that? That's something I would say honestly. Yeah, it's instead of just a story, YOU'RE gonna put it on your feed. Dude, if I put you on my feed, that means work clothes. I'm hardly there at all. Always on me. You are on my feed so often I'm always tet like one of her we're together and I take your picture, you'll take me, so it's fine. It's fine, at least fine. My feet is actually like mostly me. Yeah, but up up the pictures with someone else. It's because all my friends are short and so pictures I always look like a giant. Oh. Her mom also finds out that she went to this party and got hammered and ended up in the hospital and she gives her some...

...sort of like lecture and Davy says that she just wants to be a normal kid and her mom says that normal kids end up working at Jersey MIC's. I killed me for some reason. I always called Jersey Mike's Jimmy John they're two and places. There's are two entirely different places and there's no Jimmy John's anywhere. In your hair. I don't know how I got my head but I always call it that. I'm not that that's important to the story. I've been inside so many Jimmy Johns, but I've never ordered anything from there. Ever. I've never been inside one. I don't I don't think I've ever seen one. I've never soberly been inside three Am type of deal. Okay, sorry if you hear the rain in the background starting now, because it's absolutely pouring. So I'll try and edit it out to anyone who hears it. Anyway, moving on this episode for Yeah, this is I didn't write till any of the Festival, Oh, Danish puja. Okay, yeah, so now it's not right. I think you did. I couldn't know, but episode four is like that. It's the whole celebration of Ginnessh Puja, celebrating the Elephant God in Hindu religion, and this part I like. At the beginning of the episode she's like going to get coffee before the festival and she's in line and these this white family behind her says like she looks like Jasmine and she's like oh well, well, thank you, but then they force her to take a picture and like that's that's really awful. But I'm kind of like kind of glad they put it in there to show like that, like that's not okay, like don't for like they're like, oh, she's just a kid. To take a picture with her. It's like if she doesn't want to take a pictures, don't have to take a picture. Yeah, and especially because she was saying that she doesn't feel like herself when wearing her sorry, yeah, may be kind of sad for her. I also really love Bollywood Dancing. I think it's amazing and anyone who does it is so talented. There's like a little like Bollywood dance sequence in the middle of it, and Debbie's like not like against her ancestry, but she's very removed from it, I'd say. She like kind of makes fun of the Bollywood Dancers and is like, Oh, like, it looks cool here, but it wouldn't look cool anywhere else. And I think that's like kind of like a subplot as well, just her finding her her place within this culture that she feels really detached from because, like she explained that in the first episode, that she feels very American while her parents are are very Indian and it's hard for to connect with that. And also a plot point for this episode is that her mom wants her to talk to some sort of college counselor that can, that can almost like guarantee that he could get her into Princeton at this at the Pusia, and she does talk to him and he says that it the only way. Like she is just like every other student who wants to get into Princeton because they they're not looking for kids who are perfect and get great group. Well, obviously you have to get great grades, but they're also looking for some sort of story. And he's like, if you want to get into Princeton, I can guarantee you'll get in if you just talk about your father's death. And she which is like, unfortunately, the exact advice that I would give. I. Yeah, who did I give that advice to? In one of the other Oh l from the kissing booth, I said that exact thing. Oh yeah, I was like just talk about your mom's death and you'll get in. And like it sucks...

...that that's true, but I don't like. I'm glad Dabby didn't like. She was like why, like why would I do that? Why would I use that? But that it is, that's it's true. Like that would set you apart and terrible way. You have to play the game to win. Unfortunately, people, college is stuck. However, if you want to get into Princeton, you have to talk about your trauma. I don't know why, like, why do the admissions people eat that up? I think it's just because that means you can deal with the trauma of college. College is traumatic. I really loved how this episode kind of gives you a glimpse on Indian American culture, because I feel like we never see this on TV. Yeah, and I love it. I love learning about Indian culture in a respectful way. Yeah, in a respectful way. That also Americanizes it too, I think. Yes, like I feel like this specific episode taught me more than high school has ever taught me about Indian culture in America. Yeah, that's you're right. Also, they add in Kamalas like struggle with her arrange marriage. She talks to a woman who had been in arrange marriage but then decided to marry a man she met when she was at her university and then but ended up getting divorced and it's kind of shunned in her community and it gives her like this other side of of what life could be like like maybe she won't be really welcome and this one community that she wants to be a part of. It makes it really think about what her decision would be in regarding her arrange marriage. So episode five is next, because that comes after for and Debbie is grounded from when she went to that party and got bit by Kyote and like the only way you can get out of it is she like goes to model UN because it's like she says, it'll look good on her resume and stuff, and her mom it's fine with that. But while she's at Model U, when all this stuff is going down in her friends lives and she's not there for them because she's obsessed with the way that the model UN girls treat her because they think she was sleeping with Paxton, and it really like, I think it shows like a common flaw in like high school age. Girls just like trying to be more popular and they kind of like forget about things that are going on in other people's lives, like fabulous trying to tell her parents that she's gay and isn't able to say it, and then eleanor finds out that her mom isn't actually an actress. On a cruise ship like she had been thought for her whole life. She's a waiter at a Mexican restaurant in town. So all this like stuff is changing and in their lives and Davey isn't really there for them. And another thing going on. Well, while all of her friends are having extreme struggles and having just an awful time and need a friend, devy's on this model UN trip with Ben Gross and they're kind of taking out their anger on each other at the actual the convention. Yeah, and the kid. Do you know the show? The Middle, the Middle? Yeah, okay, yeah, so one of the kids at the model you UN convention is Brik, played by brick I love brick Um, and he's he pulls them aside and...

...is like listen, like I heard you two were kind of popular. None of US nerds here popular. So what I'm going to need is for you guys to help sneak alcohol and we can have a party. And so they devise a plan to sneak into the realtors convention and they obviously get caught because they they look like children. They're thousand, thirteen, fourteen, and so they hide in this closet and it turns out to be the alcohol closet. I don't know how that's possible, why they wouldn't have that locked or anything. Yeah, but there's ton of alcohol in this closet. So they bring it all to the room and Ben and Ben and Davey kind of bond drunkenly and then Mr Shapiro, the history teacher, tells them all to leave and catches them partying. But at this point, right before that happens, Fabiola comes out as gay to eleanor and they try to call Davy and she ignores her call. Yeah, rude and like her lie about packs, and it's going around this time, to this whole time too. And then when she finally gets back to school, she shuts down her friends when they're trying to like tell her these things, and she says that your problems are less important than mind like stop trying to tell me these things right now, and it's just like really awful. Yeah, some cringey moments. I've had a problem when Eleanor said that having a gay best friend fits her brand. Oh yeah, the theater brand. I was like okay, no, like let's not say that. And also it is an annoyed me how Davey blames everyone else but her self for the trouble she gets in. Yeah, she's really frustrating. It's a person. So for episodes six it's been story and it's I liked how they stoker been story. They change the narrator, Andy Samberg, because it's he's one of his dad's clients, but also like he's Jewish as well and it made more sense for him than narrate Ben storry. Yet and it was just really fun. I. I. I really like this episode. I felt like it made like it, like you had said earlier, really like explain been as a person and why he kind of acts like he he's on top of everything because his parents are never around and like he puts up this persona and yeah, he's so lonely. He meets a guy from Reddit at a pizza place and it turns out to be this like middle aged man who's probably a pedophile. Yeah, okay. So also Ben has this weird Zit that keeps growing on his face and so he goes to Davy's mom's dermatology practice to get it looked at and he starts sobbing in her office because he's so lonely. So she invites him to dinner and Davey's just like really mean to him during the whole dinner and then they have this like other heart heart afterwards where he tells her why he was crying and she kind of feels bad for him and they they have a nice little bonding moment. Yeah, that's flowing. Your kind of like Oh, yeah, they're gonna be together, yeah, by the end. Wait, I was also wondering. I'll keep the short, but I was also wondering if you thought this too, when Ben had to go the six hour drive from you see Davis without his year your are pods. Oh yeah, because he left them in the hotel room. When we did that on the train, it reminded me of when we went on like it ended up being like twelve hours train ride from Cannes...

...to are the beach, and I had to listen to Jeff Buckley's grace, like the addition album, like five times using the train headphones because that's that's all they had on the train. She left hers and her suitcase. This smelli is trade ride ever. Yeah, I didn't think I I didn't think about it, but yes, yes, so for episode seven, we find out that Paxon never told anyone that she lied about sleeping with him, and her friends are all really mad at her because she wasn't there for them when they needed it. And this is when she's like kind of all caught up on all of her friends, everything that's been going on in her friends lives, and she kind of inserts herself into the situations and tries to fix eleanor situation with her mom and like goes and is like, Oh, you should go talk to eleanor, and like kind of hate when people do that, like inserting themselves to other people's lives, especially like not like that is not where you need to step in. and Eleanor's mom kind of like spills the beans about everything at a bake sale and her mom actually like like everyone's like upset with eleanor's mom because she like said these things to everyone, and then eventually she ends up leaving. Like Eleanor's mom leaves again and is like I need to go to New York to be an actress, I need to like not give up on my dreams, and that like eleanors like devastated because her mom's left again and she just got it back. And at the same time that eleanor like really needs Davy to be there as a friend. Paxton texts Daby and is like I like, I need you right now. You need to come here, and instead of choosing her friend, she goes to Paxton. Awful. Yeah, it's really hard to like her. Yeah, when Um Fabuola came out to her mom and this episode, I started crying. I know her mom was so supportive. It just it made me really happy that it was good. Yeah, I thought it was so funny when she was like, I'm switching from AP French to Latin and her mom was like she's like, I didn't expect this from you, like, I know. That made me nervous for it to be like a bad when she actually told them that she was gay. Yeah, but that's what you think the reactions going to be like, that stereotypical bad reaction that she says that she says when Fabuola admits that she's gonna Switch to AP Latin instead of French. But Um, it's actually really nice, sweet moment. It was. I really liked episode eight. If we want to go to episode eight of pay, I sure so. What paxon ended up needing her for was her her I mean packed. His sister is applying to fashion design school, which is really cool, and needed someone to wear her clothes, because there was a photographer there too, to show them all or like put them on a website and have a portfolio for her, and I thought it was so I like, I like the clothes. I thought she did a really good job. It was like she got to model the clothes, which like is not an emergency, which is like why it like really sucks. Fashion Emergency and fabulous. Like check stebby's location and like finds out that she's at paxins and it kind of like breaks their friendship apart and they're like we need to have like a break as friends, which is sad. Yeah, that is sad. I...

...mean one thing that really stands out at this this episode, though, is it's Ben's birthday and like he like throws a party because his parents aren't there, and at the party, deviy's the only one who brought him a present and is the only person who gave him a present. Like his parents didn't get anything. So like Ben goes to kiss her twice and she's like Whoa like, what are you doing? I know I honestly thought that she would kiss him back and that I was like, Oh, I guess they're not going with the their romantic story line. Yeah, that they like three and for a little twister at the end. Yeah, but Um, oh another there are a few important things that happen in this episode. Two, she had basically dumps her therapist because they're not making any progress and she doesn't want to talk about her grief. And then shove all of them Davy. Davy Catches Kamala sneaking Steve into the house. Steve is Kamala's boyfriend. And fabriola goes to drink some weird punch that Trent did something awful to, and Davey tries to stop her but spills punch all over her suit and fit. Fabriola goes off and yells at her in front of everyone. She also comes out and then Davey falls into the pool Um. So Paxton Helps Davy and eve, Eve comes to really you've come SMELP Fabuola and they share a moment and they make up after Fabula was me to her. And then on the way home, because Paxon offers to drive Davy home, he and her share smooch. True, me have you seen a tick? That one when I was reminding me of but like the tick tocks that are like bever Rogino, Bever Rogo. HMM, yeah, someone say Bever Rogo. She know. Yeah, and when she gets home, like the end of the episode, she walks in the door and she imagines that her dad is at the fridge and she screams yeah, oh, yeah, that was that was something. So I think episode nine, like at least the beginning of it, was kind of like one of my favorites, just because it turns out it, I. Obviously wasn't her dad at the fridge, but it's her uncle, and her uncle is the principle from Glee. Rance will Hagan's made me so happy. Everything that he said made me laugh. I I love him. He's so great. Me Too. He's the only good person in Glee. Yeah, besides where SIS I. Yeah, I like love that he was there, like he was there, because there has to be a male presence for the first meeting of the arranged couple. But like the arranged marriage Guy Pushaw is, he's really hot. Oh I am Davy. Thought it's going to be an UGO and she says it to his face. He was hot, Hi and like he's Lauren, amazing. He's like not, what dot that...

Kamala thought he was going to be. Again, he's like everyone. Oh, every other woman I met like try to be like my mom and like really schedule. I want someone who's who's smart, who's funny, like I don't want someone who's just kind of subservient and does whatever I ask. He's so chill. Yeah, and they just really hit it off and it makes me happy for her. Yeah, also, at this point Steve sneaks into the House and she asked to dump him because she's like, oh, for Shawn's a little bit better than you. Steve No offense, and it's just like kind of crazy that he just broke into their house. Yeah, he is actually really annoying. During this whole episode, Davy is having weird flashbacks to the night her father died, and it's kind of almost her and her mom's fall. The reason why he had a heart attack because Davy's mom and her gone to a fight because she couldn't find her sheet music for the Orchestra Concert and the DAD was trying to Mohamma was trying to diffuse the situation and Um did devy over hears her mom like saying that she's not her daughter and that it's all his responsibility now because she doesn't know how to take care of Davy. And so the whole time Dave, he's trying not to freak out at her mom. And she actually is able to play the harp, which is something she couldn't do before. Yeah, like it just like made her too upset because her dad died in the middle of her playing the harp. But like it. And like we find out that she said she like hated her mom right before her dad died, and that was like really like escalated it all. And then at the end of like this meeting between Pasha and Kamala, it like their uncle, I like accidentally says that the mom wants them to move back to India and she freaks out, like this is the first she's ever heard of it. Look, of course you'd freaked out about this. And but she ends up saying that she wishes her mom was the one that died that at that concert instead of her dad. We're almost with things, which brings US episode ten. Um. We're where Debi was so upset by everything to happen that she moves in with Ben. She's like, I can't ask my friends were not talking. I can't ask Paxson. That be like kind of weird, and she just goes up to Ben's like can I move in with you? And basically this is like the episode where she finally, like I think all of them, are, like managing their grief for the first time instead of like really like pushing it to the side, because her mom is looking to sell the house and it's just thinking about all the memories that they have there, and Davy is trying to like it's her dad's birthday as well, and she's like seeing all these memories and but also she wants to get emancipated, and there's just like a lot going on. Yeah, and basically, like her mom's finally wants to spread their her dad's ashes, Davy's like thinking, Oh, this is a ploy to get me to go to come home and then go to India, but it's really just like she doesn't want to let her dad go, which is why she doesn't want to spread his ashes. But the best part of the whole series happens in this episode because when she finally decides to go with her mom to to Melbu which is where they're spreading his ashes. She she runs into John Magnaro at the beats too. She's like trying to call for help, like not for help, but like to get her mom to like wait until she can...

...get down to the beach, and she her voice isn't loud enough, but his voice is and he's like hey, like way that. Yeah, it's great. Also, been drove her to Malibu and after it's all over, they smooved. They make out. Yeah, they full on makeout. However, during this past it seems to be calling setting us up for season two, and he's also that he's like at our house trying to talk to her and like just calls her and it's like love triangle. Yeah, okay, so that was it. Never have I ever. What are your yeah, I took me. Took me a second to get into it, but I I feel invested now. I I would definitely watch a second season, not all in one go like I did last night. I watched ten episodes of this show last night, so I am a little, a little over it for right now, but I've been invested in debby and Ben it. Maybe Paxton, we'll see. He seems like a good guy. He just like yeah, hearn in. The show has their flaws, yes, except for packs and six sister Rebecca. Oh Yeah, Oh my God, in the the last episode where she like complete, completely roast him. Yeah, that's why I've yeah, that's why I packed him at our house, because Rebecca's like, why are you, like why isn't she your girl friend? Like she's an amazing person and you're just like treating her like garbage, like he's like, no, I'm not, but she's like, guess you are, like fix this and then well, so I really like her, her line where she says oh no, and he says what and she goes your Duche and then walks away. Yeah, Queen, she's she's great. Yeah, but would you watch season two if it happens? Because nothing's really happening right now. Because, Um, yeah, I actually really like this show. I've never been able to really find a show where I can watch an entire season and one night and not want to die. I just really appreciate how it how it shows high school life like it's it's ridiculous, but also at the same time you can relate to it, which is what yeah, I appreciate from some of my favorite shows, like some of my favorite shows are like the office or arrested development, and those are all shows that you can relate too, but are also so ridiculous that it makes it funny, and that's what I really like about this, like you can relate to the high school aspect, some of the issues that the characters are going through, but at the same time they find themselves in the most extreme and crazy situations and I just really appreciate that. Yeah, it definitely grew on me and it's I think it's really nice because the episodes are less than thirty minutes, which I always appreciate if you can like fit. I feel like they fit a lot into thirty minutes, that it wasn't like way too overpacked or just like, I don't know. I felt like it was really good spacing and it wasn't like love in the time of Corona, where it just like felt underdeveloped, even though like they were short episodes. It felt like they really thought it through, which I really had. All the characters had a chance to grow and I also like that a show that's really good, especially a comedy show like this. What makes it really good is that it's able to evoke all these different emotions in you. So like at one point, multiple points in this show, I was crying, and it's the first season and I...

...watched it in one night and I was crying at some of these episodes and then it was so funny at some points that I was laughing out loud in my room and then other points I was like screaming, like when Paxson Kissed Davy, like okay, so I was like it just into so many emotions in me and I think that makes a show really successful. And then also like rage, like whenever Davey would make a really bad decision. So I appreciate it. I thought like it was a really well put together show and like I had my one one thing that that bothered me. But HM, I don't know, maybe maybe they'll develop that in season two. I don't know, I don't know. When Isabel goes on a rant this time and not me. It's rare, but it happens. I guess that was that was it. Yeah, that was like a lot, but good a lot, and we actually had this one planned. I'm proud of us for like knowing that. We were like a couple weeks ago we like we should watch this show. We didn't like do it until last night, right before we're going to record, but we client. But we still decided that we were going to watch the show and we did it. So hopefully we had some problems with spotify last week, so this maybe up the week after we record it, depending on if those problems are still persisting. But hopefully this will be up on September, the fourteen, September fourteen. If not, we'll put it up on the twenty one. And Yeah, we're scited to get on to our next show. We don't know what that one's going to be yet, but we'll think about it. If you have any suggestions or anything, feel free to reach out to us. Our instagram is how we never podcast, our twitter is how have we never and our facebook is, how have we never seen this before? But we mainly use instagram and twitter and this they should all be up on Youtube as well. We are live on Youtube. If you want to subscribe, it's the same name as everything else and you can leave us some comments. We got some weird comments on some of our videos, but those were deleted. Yeah, just say hi and we'll see you next week or in two weeks, opinion, when this goes up, but for us by Hey, congratulations, you've made it to the end of our podcast. We hope you enjoyed listening. How have we never seen this before? Is produced by is bomarone. The music is by Scott Holmes. The podcast art is by Michael Beaumont, over at monitor comics, and our social media is run by Lauren Cola. Thanks for listening.

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