Sounder SIGN UP FOR FREE
How Have We Never Seen This Before?
How Have We Never Seen This Before?

Season 2, Episode 3 · 1 year ago

Never Have I Ever: " Normal Teenagers End Up in Prison, or Worse, Working in Jersey Mike’s"

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In Season 2 Episode 3, Isabel and Lauren discuss the new Netflix series, Never Have I Ever. 

Join us as we talk about how Devi is the modern-day Georgia from Angus, Thongs, and Perfect Snogging, how high schoolers can be really frustrating, and how much we love Principal Figgins from Glee. 

If you want more from How Have We Never Seen This Before, feel free to subscribe on Apple Podcast and Spotify, and give us a follow on Instagram at @howhaveweneverpodcast!

Also, shout out to Michael Beaumont @monitorcomics for our podcast art!

Thanks for listening!

Hello, welcome back to have we neverseen this before this week. We discuss the show. Never have I ever stay tune.The heares talk about how Davy is the Modern Day, Georgia from angust tongsin perfect snogging, how high schoolers can be really frustrating and how muchwe love Principal Higgins from Glee. WAIT IT'S FIGGINS RIGHT! This is a poadcast where two bestfriends talk about movies, they've, never seen before. I'm Isabel and I'mLauren- and this is how have we never seen this before. I everyone and welcome back to how wenever seen this before this episode is season two episode. Three already. Iguess, and we watch never have I ever and well before we described the show.I guess this show was suggested to us by two well one of Laren and my friendsand another one of my friends Lani and my roommate ally. So thank you fortelling us to watch this. I don't know what you think about it yet so I don'tknow if you're like good, thank you or like. Why did you teld me to watch thisbut Um, so this show was created by Miny Keeling. It followsDavy, demery yeah. I think okay, Davi m an Indian American girl and her friendsthrough her sophomore year of high school and pretty much just like theirfriendship troubles, relationship troubles, family troubles. I guess youcould say it's like a coming of age series, which is what we like. We love coming of each show movies yeah.So for this we're GOINGTA kind of a structure like we did love in the timeof Corona. Hopefully we follow that we're going to do characters and theneach episode kind of favorite plot lines, lease favoritesand things that stet out. So if you want to explain the characters for us,Lorn, okay, Um, so I guess we'll start with Dav. Her name is Devi Vishukmar.She lives in the San Fernando Valley, she's, the main character Sheis, asophomore in high school she's, very interested in being a typical Americangirl, wh, whatever that kind of entails. She plays the harp in Orchestra and shekind of reminds me of a Modern Day, Georgia from Angas bogs. In perfectstogging yeah an yeah, it really does. She has kind of the same characterflaws in which she wants to be popular and get with the popular guys at school,Um and kind of sometimes leaves her friends out and abandons them to riseup in the social rankings. So that's her main character flaw and that's aproblem throughout the whole show, but also one thing we find out in the firstlike two minutes of the show, is that her dad just died. So it's it's alsokind of following her story of how she handles her grief and or doesn't reallyhandle it M for a while and there's also likeen Hunshe Hindos, herrelationship with her Moan. Now that it's sort of just the two of them yeahtotally forgot about that whole part, which is the biggest part of the show M so yeah. Moving on to her mom, hermom's name is Nelini. She is a...

...vegetarian which we have no choice, butto stand, she is a derotologist and yes, sheshe's kind of dealing with her husband recently passing and raising a daughterall on her own, and she is kind of a strict mother. So then we have Mohenwho is devie's. Father he's also a vegetarian, so we really have no choicebut to stand. He had a heart attack and that's how he passed away and he's kindof a baddy honestly know he's not alive iireally. Like her dad he's He's H, theactor seemed very familiar as well, but, like her dad seemed like he was areally cool guy. Oh, he was so cool and you know easy on the eye O. also, this show is narrated by Mon's, favorite tennis player, which,like I, it's not really like a character trait. I guess it is, but Ion't know I found that weird. But what that was my favorite part, hisnarration, I just the narration was fine. I just didn't know why they likewent with him like I get th it like I kind of a connection to her dad, but Idon't know it just seemed like within the first like minute or two when theylike we're like I'm this tennis player. I was like why like? Why? Should we just say his name O Know His mal? Oh John Mattherow, okay, yeah! No, but I honestly think inmy personal opinion that he made the show like without his narration. Itwould have been like not as funny at all Y. I like I liked his little cameoat the end, though yeah I just personally think that without hisnarration, the show would not be as funny his witty one liners really really made me laugh. I don't know a Loa lot better than the Um love island narrator for the? U S version! Oh yes!Yes, yes, yes, so there's also Deby's two best friends. I think they can kindof go together, Fabiola and eleanor. I thought it was pretty cool that they were people ofColor. It wasn't like you know when there's like the three friends and thenthere's th, the white girl, the White Guy and the the black best friend or whatever on'know. I think it's nice that they devated from the stereotypical friend group forshows like this, but so they've been friends foreverfabuls really into like electrical engineering andbuilding robots and eleanor's really into h theater. So they both. I don'tknow if I wan to say they're like things like they're big, I guess y. u you culd say like thy'rethey're, big things like they're, big struggles, oay, so fabula really isstruggling with her sexuality and talking to her parents, about it andand even her friends as well and eleanor. Her big struggle is kind of coping with her mom having leftwhen she was when she was really young but theyr they're, still in contact Um and just the the way that that has been affectingher career and how she or like what she wants in a career and how she connectswith people. I guess he could say I don't want to say too much becausethat's like part of the revieal in later APISOS, okay, so there are two main guys in theshow who are in Devy's classes and one is Paxtin who's. Her crush he'sa swimmer, he speaks Japanese and he...

...has three fan tumblers and also he kind of looks like a thirtyyear old man is that just me Oky, he looked ver like everyone else lookedlike they were the age that they were playing, but he looked oddly old yeah and I understandthat he's supposed to be like one or two years older than her yeis held backher, but he has wrinkles. I feel I know ime seems weird yeah Um. Do you haveanything to add to Paxton Um? No, I mean he's he's half Japaneseand that I guess he's His dad taught him.Japanese yeah, oh oohwe, forgot to add that Wel I for I forgot to add that he is like one of the popular kids atSchool, Oh yeah, en he also has. He also has a sister named Rebeca Umwho's played by a girl with down syndrome, and she also makes a show she's good she'sgreat. I love her. I love her Um and she works at old Navy, Um and she's anaspiring fashion designer. So you know just cooler than anyone else, and thenyou have the other Gud m Ben Gross Demi's archnemesis Um, and he createdthis awful nickname for Davi and her friends called the U N and M thateither stands for the United Nations, which is pretty racist, um or UNFOLnerds Um. So he kind of you think he sucks at the beginning, but then Um youfind out that there's more to him than just being a jerk. He competes with heracademically and that's why they're theyre Nemsis and I think his insultsare pretty funny. I kind of love him at the end, especially because you kindof find out that he's just sad and lonely and he doesn't have any realfriends. His parents are awful Um and once like him and Davy start to realize that theyhave more in common than you', think they become good friends and he'sactually a pretty good person yeah. I think they they really like challengeeach other, which is like ever sin. They like made up this thing in middleschool. I think where they split all the the Um clubs and activities so likethey wouldn't interact with each other, but they could each have like a lot ofthings, and I think that like really pushes Davy N impen tobe better at school, like Davi's dreams to go to Princton, so that's kind of her. I guess it's like not an ultimategoal, but like it's like an underlying go, I guess mhm Um, Oh and Thenth, thelast person. Unless you have another person- oh you more. Can I just addsomething to the on grose Um. So then, grosss mom is played by Angela anoffice, and that was so unexpected. But I love her yeah. I was like O my GooAngela Um, but the last like mains, our side character. Unless there's one emfor yetting is M. Dabi's, cousin, Camela Um. She is a Ma, she's guning, her masters at Catech.I don't really remember biology, I think she's, a biologist, um and her storyline is hat she's. Well, she movedin with them after Mohandide and Um...

...she's being put into an arranged marriage, and it'skind of like how. How does she want to manage that because she also has aboyfriend and she doesn't she's like do I. I have to have th this duty to myfamily, or do I be with this guy who I really reallylike so t at there's like her story and how she manages that which is which is?Actually I really like her 's pretty interesting. I really liked her too,and another thing. That's kind of like one of the plot points in the show isthat she is like the perfect kid mum, she's, really beautiful and she's areally good student, Um and so Davy kindof feels jealous and resents her abit and that's kind of a point of contention because she thinks thatshe's perfect yeah. So I I think, that's everyone there's like some there's like sidecharacters like friends and boyfriends, but they don't really play a huge role. So I guess we can get into episode. One okay, cool M. I don'tremember what the title o this episode was they're, all like. Never have Iever dot that that something, but I mean the main Pat Line of this episode-is that we find out that her dat is passin. It's kind of like a backgroundepisode, I'd say, and I guess like when I was watching thisfirst episode. It mayme. I I didn't think I would likeTho show because, like so there's this like thing that like comes up withinthe first five minutes, and it's like after her dad, passed all of a sudden,debby's legs, stopp working for three months until she like, saw packs and take off hisshirt and then all of a sudden, she stood up or something- and I don't knowit just like it- sat with me the wrong way like they just kindof- threw in herhaving a disability and her life being over, because she had this disabilityand then, oh all of a sudden. She had the use of her legs again, and it wasjust I don't know. It was just like basically saying her. Life is so muchbetter now that she has working legs- and I don't know it just like sat withme- The wrong way. MHM and like another like thing like this is she's also likeas soon she comes back to school. She's like like, we need to be cooler thisyear and she like tells her friends. T E need to change the way they dresschange kind of the way they they talk and they act and then she's like, andI'm going to try and date. This guy, who I think, is probably gay just so Ican weazle my way up. I don't know like that. Whole first episode is release.Didn't sit right with me if you ha, I don't know like what doyou think bout yeah? I do agree that I they could have gone about it in adifferent way, in the sense that either make her have a disability or don't,but I think this show kind of it doesn't touch on it heavily, but Ithink it shows that even when Davy has full ability in her legs again, herlife is not perfect. Also, she has many flaws and it really bothers me, but Iunderstand that the main character, especially someone who's, a sophomorein high school, should not be a perfect person and I don't know like she's,very immature yeah, but I think tha, like I get whatyou're saying about how once she has like use of her legs again, it's notlike her life is perfect, but I I feel like they just grazed over it,and it was just like this thing that didn't like there are different ways.People handle grief and- and I...

...completely understand that, but I justfelt like it. It felt like they put it in to make her quirky and like people,would make fun of her for that for one day at school, and then it was pushed to the S. I don't know it.It felt really weird to me MM. I I real way that people handle grief.Does that actually happen? I I o believe it is like you just like are sooverwhelmed with with things that you just can't function in certain ways, but I I'e, since this is sort of base I'minykiling's life. I wanted a double check that, like maybe that did happento her, but it was not something that ever happened in herlife. She didn't lose her parents and she only I hin losther one of her grandparents like later inher life. So if it had been part of her quote story, then I I would haveunderstood it being in there, but it wasn't N. I still don't get it. I don't really have a high point forthis first episode or like that was like really what just stod out to meand stuck with me for that entire episode. So if you have any g goodparts for this episode, so it gives her background, but then it also goesthrough her first day of school, and so we kind of are introduced to everyonelike her friends, Paxton Ben Gross Um Camela, her therapist, Oh true, Iforgot botetherapy throughout the show. The therapist kind of wants her to beable to process her grief and is trying to have some sort of breakthrough withher. But all Dev he wants to do is talk aboutboys at thething, Um, yes, so so her first day school doesn't go verywell because don't she still kind of invisible, even though she has full use of herlegs again. No one really remembers anything. That's happened, except theyjust think of her as the girl whose dad died at Um c. An Orchestra Concert No,and she also believes that she saw her dad in some sort of dreamor vision the night after herfirst day of school, and she also makes a pact for this year to beconsidered a cool kid, because her and her friends are kind of nerdy. And so,oh I wrote for this episode. I said prediction ive,that Ben and Daviar Geo and up yeah. I was thinking that the whole time too Um poiler they KINDOF, do it's kind of like we don't know. Se'sontoo well determined, I guess yeah, but Um Davy also finds out that eleanor isdating this boy and she is freaking out because she thinks that eleanor is kindof weird like weirder than her and so she's like. If Eleanor can get aboyfriend howcome. I can't, and so she talks to her therapist about it afterhaving a breakdown and smashing glass and her therapist thinks that they'vereached some sort of positive agreement and she goes back to school and asksPaxton to have sex with her and, like just straight up, says haypacks and wehave sex with me and he says yes and then she writes it in her grief journalYeah that had een o ends Um also. I don't think her impaxon have everspoken before yeah he s jst like he doesn't know she exists, but I guess,like my high moments, for the episode I related to some of their like highschool high school, his shoes, I guess...

...like the Stalle ones like when she'spraying, and she says I would love for my arm hair to thin out. I love that because that's MEA and thenUm Fabiola says that the day that they're supposed to like dress, cuterFabiola usually wears a boy's medium Polo and when they're supposed to likedress cuter or whatever I used airquotes, she decides to wear amen, small Polo, that kind of reminds me of us in high school, because we hadto wear Polos, wear a different color skirt nd. Thenyou're cuterthanyehtoday I'm wearing my pink Polo instead of my Navy Polo, butI still looks like a trash bag on me, yeah yeah that the first episode didn't leave me in a good spot, but Iwas ready to keep going yeah so for the second episode it like,starts right off with debby dreaming that packon like shows up at our house andis Goingto infexith, her and Ilik guess this episode like Kinda, like sat funnywith me too, because she like, like I- I get it now, because it's it's veryhigh school. It's very like these are things that happen in high school. You, like you, want your friends to think you'recooler than you are. I guess she so she lies about having sex with packs inlike they, the essume that she does and she doesn't correct them Um. So I don'tknow that, just like, I knew that would come back to get herso that I don't know I was like that was likeweird for me, but I also one thing I really liked was when they're trying to learn about sex andlike they take it like it's a test. If so they're they grab two stuffedanimals and they like show moves with th stuped animals and like they're quizzing, each other,which I thought was really funny yeah. Oh another thing that happens inthis episode is that Davy says that she wishes the nautiswould kill Ben and they oh yeah Twe, both which is hawful. They bothget in a lot of trouble and then they kind of have a weird heard to heart. Sothat's when you kind of first see that that, like softening up between them,which I think is cute, we also meet packs and sister in this episode,because Debbi goes over to Packton's house Thvesex with him, but then freaksout and Um goes to the bathroom and then accidentally runs into his sisterand he packan gets really upset with her or he like thinks she's like beenwandering around his house, but he then apologizes later, just because he is so used to t sister gettingbullied. He didn't want, like I don't know like. I guess like not to find outabout her, but to for her to be mean to his sister, which, like don'tknow, I thought that was him explaining like what how he took care of hissister when they were younger. He said that he sat by her like when she wasadopted. He sat by her bed every night with a nurve gun to protect her, whichwas sweet mhm. But I kind of like going off of that. What I like about thisshow is that, like on the surface, each of these kids seems like an normal highschooler that fulfills some sort of stereotype mum but their home livestell a completely different story, and...

...so you understand why they act the waythat they do like why Ben Gross Acts Thaly that he does why Paxton actly hedoes, and so I kind of like that, because Um everyone's met these typesof people in high school and you all jug, like we all judge them, but really there's more going on yeah. We, we also forgot to say something: WaRise, Yo didn't say I the episode starts with her reading. After that'sSh, I didn't even see that yeah she was reading after Oh, my God, Gorf Torg, myown heart, my God, you I had no idea. Oh my God. We there are a lot of cringy thingsthat they said in this episode. Looking at it now. So what I wrote down withthat M Davy says I'm ready to bone e say that that means you're. Not I'msorry don't ever say that, because that's exactly what a therapistyesexactly. Oh one part that kind of made me laugh asthat she said: Hot People don't have problems to her therapist and then saysI've seen your waiting room and no offence, but they're, mostly ugoes. Shecalls t she calls everyone Ugo, like Davys, so annoying yeah, Oh andthen one of t e one of her friends describes paxtons Um. You know little. I can jjustbelieve it out, taxans Um. She describes it through his sweatpands, like a pepper, grinder, and then Davy says that she won't beable to walk the next morning because she's about to go, get railed. That'sallll, don't say that Um yeah cringe all around. On E. I Iwould never say that, like this is the exact opposite of my personality. I don't think I would say that youdon't I'm not saying you would either but like no. I could never now heart yeah, so I guess moving on to episode three.Unless you have anything else to add, I don't think so. They started off bout, doing a Tik, TokChallenge and CRINGY KINDAF cute. I like how, in themiddle of it her mom, comes out and make R devie's mom comes out and makesher put on a tshirt underneath they're like wearing these, like skintidedresses and her mom comes and makes e put a Te Shit on underneath. I lovethat I just don't think mainstream mediashould be using tic talk because yeathe boomers who produce these shows, don'tunderstand what what ttalk is real yeah yeah.Another parte really liked about this episode. Was the history teacher. Heseems so cool like I guess you didn't. I thought itseemreally cool. I wrote everything this man says is cringy bull like I wouldae love the history teacher likethat. Are you serious like trying to find ways to engage with kids insteadof just like lecturing at them? Do you not recall the part where hesays that they're going to talk about slavery and points to Fabiola and thenpoints to Ben when he says they're going to talk about the Holocaust? Notthat part I mean like the projects he comes up with. Ok, but if I were in a Phistory, I would not want to be...

...learning about an APP idea for worldwar. Two. I would want to learn how to take the test, so I don't have to takehistory in college like a normal, unnormal history, Coss Thoh, I don'tknow, I don't know man, I'm not all right, theynever, mind, never mind. Also you in this episode, you kind ofsee that fabrual was struggling with her sexuality. She seems to beattracted to this girl that she paired up with for this group project thatthis teacher gives out, which mayor may not be interesting, Um and she really doesn't understand it anddoesn't really know what to think about it. 'cause she does't know what herfamily will think and Kinda like freaks out when this girl eve invites her to aqueer youth event Um, which is which is really nice like a way of like justbeing like. This is an open space for you. I thought they did that reallywell, but she was so mean to poor eve. Yeah Fabulas, like really like, reallyshut her down, but I I understand like why she like she's,really just coming to this realization at the beginning of this episode, andthen it kind of progresses really quickly.So I think it's just like a wat for her also what'. What else? The other thingthat's happening in this episode said: Davy is now in a group project withPakon and some other popular guy named Trint yeah, and they only picked her because umwell now she's, like friends with pasting kind of, but they only pickedher because she's, smart and Trenskind of dumb yeah trenc is very dumb butaxton. He has been held back from school, so he's been strugglingacademically yeah also like now that she has this connection with those too.She gets invited to sort of invited to trparty. She Tri invites herself yeahshe kind of revites herself, but so the big thing in this episode isthat she gets really drunk at the Party and then at the beginning of theepisode she thought she had seen her her dad as a coyote in their backyard,because the coyote picked up her dad's tennis ball and at this party she seesa coyote in the backyard and goes to talk to it like it's her dad and thenthe coyote attacks her and bites her, and they like call her coyote girlafter that yeah. But she kind of gained somepopularity through that because it yet went viral. Oh and Paxton takes her tothe hospital and they kind of she thinks that they're sharing some sortof moment m and then he he goes. Oh. This is why we're friends nd then sheher heart is broken along with her m. He also like takes a picture with herin the hospital bed and posted on his insinroom yeah, it's so weird and she's,like Oh you're, going to grin post that that's something I would say honestlyyeahinstead of just a story. You're going to put it on your feet m. If I put you on my feet, that means twere close. I'm hardly there at all, always onThdyou are on my feet. So often I'm always t like whenever we're together-and I take your picture. You'll tag me. So it's fun, it's fine, everye's! Fine!My feet is actually like, mostly me, yeah, but up up the pictures wit, someoneelse it's because all my friends are short and so pictures. I always looklike a giant. Oh her mom also finds out that she went to this party and Gotehammered and ended up in the hospital,...

...and she gives her some sort of like alecture and Davy says that she just wants to be a normal kid and her momsays that normal kids end up working at Jersey, mikes. I killed me for some reason. I alwayscalled Jersey, mikes Jimmy Johns they're two en places those are twoentirely different places and there's no Jimmy Jons anywhere near here. Idon't know how that got N my head, but I always call I that I know that that'simportant to the story. I've been inaside, so many Jimmy Johns, but I'venever ordered anything from there ever I've never been inside one. I don't. I don't think I've ever seen.One I've never soberly been in time, pream type, ofdeal! Okay! Sorry, if youhear the rain in the background starting now, because it's absolutelypouring so I'll, try and edit it out to anyone who hears it anyway, me we entup with some four yeah. This is. I didn't write on the name of thefestival. Oh denash, puja, okay Y so announced that right, I think he did. Icould be ron BU episode fors, like that. The whole celebration of Genoshpuja Umcelebrating the elephant God in Indu Religion- and this part I like at the beginning of the episode she'slike going to get coffee before the the festival and she's in line andthese this white family behind her says, like she looks like jazmine and she'slike ohwll. Thank you, but then they force her to take a picture and likethat's, that's really awful, but I I kinda like Kindo Glod. They put it in there toshow like t at like that's, not Oky like don't for like 'like, oh she's,just a kid just take a picture wth her, it's like if she doesn't want to take apicture, Syou, don't have to take a picture yeah and especially because shewas saying that she doesn't feel like herself when wearing her sorry yeah made me kind of sad for her. I alsoreally love Bollywood Dancing. I think it's amazing and anyone who does it isso talented. There's like a little like Bollywood, dance sequince in the middleof it and debby's like not like against her ancestry, but she's very removedfrom it. I'd say she like Kindo, makes fun of the Bollywood Dancers and islike, oh, like it looks cool here, but it wouldn't look o anywhere else and Ithink that's like kind of like a subclot as well as her to finding herher place within this culture that she feels reallydetached from because, like she explained at th in the first episodethat she feels very American while her parents are are very Indian and it'shard for her to connect with that MHM and also a plotpoint for this episodeis that her mom wants her to talk to m some sort of college counselor thatking, that can almost like guarantee that he could get her into Princeton atthis at the Pujo. And she does talk to him and he says thatthe only way like she is just like every other student who wants to getinto Princeton because they they're not looking for kids, who are perfect andget great grwell. Obviously, you have to get great grades, but they're alsolooking for some sort of story and he' like if you want to get into Princeton,I cand guarantee you'll get in. If you just talk about your father's death andshe, which is like, unfortunately, the exact advice that I would give I y whodid I give that advice to it in one of the other, oh l from the kissing boot.I said that exact thing: Oh Ye, like just talk about your mom's debt andyou'll, get in and wion it sucks that...

...that's true but an Lik, I'm I'm glad Davi didn't likeshe was like w like. Why would I do that? Why would I use that? But th t it is that's it's true like that, would set you apart an terrible way. You have to play the gameto win. Unfortunately, people collegeis suck. However, if you want to get intoPrinceton, you have to talk about your trauma. I don't know why, like? Why do theadmissions people eat that up? I think it's just because that means you candeal with a trauma of college college is traumatic. I really loved how this episode kind ofgives you a glimpse on Indian American culture, because I feel like we neversee this on TV yeah and I love it. I love learning about Indyan culture in arespectful way, yeah in a respectful way that also Americanizes it two. I think yes, like I feel like this specificepisode taught me more than high school has ever taught me about Indian culturein America, Yeh Ora m also, they add in M comelas likestruggle with her arranged marriage. She talks to a woman who had been an arranged marriage but thendecided to marry a man she met when she was at her university and then ut endedup getting divorce and is kind of shunned in her community, and it givesher like this other side of of what life could be like like. Maybe shewon't be really welcome in this one community that she wants to be a partof at makes her really think about what her decision would be in regarding herarranged marriage, so episode, five is next 'cause that comes after fourand.Debi is grounded from when she went to that party and got bitby Kaoti and like the only way you can get out of it.is she like goes to model? The? U N, because it's like she says: It'll, look good onher resume and stuff um and her mom is fine with that. But while she's atMotdel? U N, all this stuff is going down in her friend's lives and she's,not there for them, because she's obsessed with the way that the mobyu ngirls treat her because they think she was sleeping with Pakton and it really like. I think it shows like acommon flaw in like high scheege girls, just like trying to be more popular and they kind of likeforget about things that are going on in other people's lives like Fabulais,trying to tell her parents that she's gay and isn't able to say it, and then eleanor finds out that her mom isn't actually an actress on acruiseship like shead thought for her whole life she's a waiter at a Mexicanrestaurant in town Um. So all this like stuff is changing N intheir lives and Davy isn't really there for them and another thing going on,while, while all of her friends are having extreme struggles m and havingjust an awful time in need a friend Devy's on this model, UN trip with BenGross and Um they're kind of taking out their angeron each other at the actual, the Convention and Um the KI. Do you know the show middle,the Middle Yeah Yeaso, one of the kids at the model? UN Convention is brenklyby brick, OV, brick...

...and he's he pulls him aside and is likelisten like I heard you, two were kind of popular. None of us neurns here arepopular. So what I'm going to need is for you guys to help sneak alcoholl andwe can have a party, and so they devise a plan to sneak into the realtersconvention and they obviously get caught because they they look likechildren, their thirteen, an fourteen, and so they hide in this closet and itturns out to be the alcohol closet. I don't know how that's possible why theywouldn't have that locked or Anydea, but there's a ton of alcohol in thiscloused, so they bring it all to the room and H, Ben and Ben and Davy kind of bonddrunkenly and then Mier Shipiro. The history teacher tells them all to leavem and catches tsem partying. But at this point right before thathappens, Fabiola comes out as gay to eleanor and they try to call Davy andshe ignores her call yeah rude and like her lie about packs and going aroundthis time. This whole time too, and then, when she finally gets back toschool. She shuts down her friends when they're, trying to like tell her thesethings, and she says that your problems are less important than mine. Like stop trying to tell me these thingsright now and it s just like really awful yeasome cringy moments M I've hada problem when Eleanor said that having a gay best friend fits herbrand. Oh yeah, the theater brand of like okay,no, let's Knowand, say that and also it annoyed me how Davy blames everyoneelse, but herself for the trouble she gets in yeah, she's really frustrating as a persand. So for episodes six, it's Ben's storyand it's I I liked how they suffer Ben Story.They change the narrator Andy Samberg, because it's he's one of his dad'sclients, but also like he's Jewish as well, and it madeworse sense for him than Er than my lory at Um. That was just really fun. II I really like this episode. I felt like it made like, like you D, said earlier, really likeexplained Ben as a person and why he kind of acts like he's on top ofeverything. 'cause his parents are never around and, like he puts up thispersona and yeah, he he's so lonely. He meets a guy from Redi at a pizza placeand it turns out to be this like middle aged man, who's, probably a patophile, yeah, okay, so also Ben has this weird Zitthat keeps growing on his face, and so he goes to Daby's mom's dermatologypractice to get it looked at and he starts solbing in her office becausehe's so lonely. So she invites him to dinner and Davy's, just like reallymean to him during the whole dinner, and then they have this like other HartHeart afterwards, where he tells her why he was crying and she kind of feelsbad for him and they they have a nice little blonding moment. Yeah, that's wo an you're kindof like Oh yeah,they're, gonna that'll, be together, yeah o the end. We. I was also wondering I'll keep thisshort, but I was also wondering if you thought this too, when Um then had togo the six hour drive from UC Davis without his your your airpods o YeahDis. He left them in the hotel room. When I did that on the train itreminded me of when we went on like it ended up being like twelve hours, umtrain ride from cans to airly beach,...

...and I had to listen to Jeff Buckley'sof grace like the andition Allbum, like five times using the train headphonesbecause that that's all they had on the train. She left hers in Um, hersuitcase Thi milliest traiter. I Eve yeah. I didn't think I I didn't think about it, but yes, yes, so or episodes seven. We find out that Paksonnever told anyone that she lied about sleeping with him and her friends areall really mad at her because she wasn't there for them when they neededit, and this is when she's, like kind ofall caught up on all of her friends. Everything that's been goingon in her friend's lives and she kind of insearts herself into the situationsand tries to fix elianor's situation with her mom and, like goes and is like.Oh, you should go talk to eleanor and like Kinda hate, when people do that likeanswering themselves to other people's lives specially. I E not like that isnot where you need to step in and eleanor's mom kindof like spells thebeans about everything, a bake, sale and her mom actually like, like everyone's like upset witheleanor's mom, because she like said these things to everyone and theneventually she ends up leaving like elenor's mom leaves again and it's likeI I need to go to New York to be an actress I need to like not give up onmy dreams and that like Eleanor's, like devascated,because her mum's left again- and she just got et back and at the same time that eleanor like reallyneeds Davy to be there as a friend Pakson Tex Davyn is like I like. I needyou right now. You need to come here and instead of choosing her friends,she goes to pexton awful Yah. It's really hard to like her yeah. When Um Fabulla came out to her mom andthis episode I started rying. I know her mom was so supportive. I just itmade me really happy that it was good yeah. I thought it was so funny whenshe was like I'm switching from AP French to Latinin. Her mom was likeShewas, like I didn't expect this from youlike. I know that made me nervousfor it to be like a bad when she actually told themthat she was gang yeah, but that's what you think the reaction's going to belike that stereotypical bad reaction that she sayst't she says when Fabuola admits that she's going toswitch to Aplatin instead of French but Um intirely, really nice sweet moment. It was. I really liked episode eight ifwe want to go to epitodae, okay asure, so what Pakson ended up meeting her forwas her her I mean PAC. His sister is applying to fashion design school,which is really cool and m needed someone to wear her clothes'cause. There was a photographer there to to show them all or like put him ona website and have a portfolio for her, and I thought it was so like. I likedthe clothes I thought she did a really good job. It was like she got to modelthe clothes which, like is not an emergency which is like why, likereally sucks, astn emergency and Fabula like check, debbi's locationand like finds out that she's at Paxan thend, it kind of like breaks theirfriendship apart and they're like we need to have like a break as friends MHM, which is sod...

...yeah. That is sad. I mean one thingthat really stands out at this. This episode,though ism its bens birthday and like he like,throws a party because his parents aren't there and at the party Deby'sthe only one who brought him a present and is the only person who gave him apresent, like his parents didn't git him anything so, like Ben goes to kissher twice and she's like who, like what are you doing? I know I honestly thought that shewould kiss him back and that I was like. Oh, I guess, they're not going withtheir romantic story line yeah that they like three and per littletwister at the end yeah, but Um, oh another. There are few important thingsthat happen in this episode too. Shea basically dumps her therapist Umbecause they're not making any progress and she doesn't want to talk about hergrief and then Um, shoon Dav, dly catches, COMELA sneakingSteve into the house. Steves COMMO's, boyfriend and Fabiola goes to drink.Some Weird Punch that Trent did something awful to and Davy tries tostop her, but spills punch all over her suit and fake Fabiola goes off andyells at her in front of everyone. She also comes out and then Davy falls intothe pool Um, so Paxton Helps Tavi and eve. Eve comes to Wolly L. I comes nowfabuoluand, they share a moment and they make up after Fabrulo s mean toher and then onl the way home, because packton offers to drive Davy home. Heand her sharers mooce Ma eronly. Have you seen it take th es remind me,but like the tictaks that are like Bevrajino bevrogine, no mm yeah, so onsay bevrogin. Now you know yeah Um and when she gets home like the endof the episode she walks in the door, and she imagines that her dad is at thefridge and she screams yeah, oh yeah, that was that was something so I thinkepisode nine, like at least the beginning of it was Kindo like one ofmy favorites just because it turns out. I obviously wasn't her dad at thefridge, but it's her uncle and her uncle is the principal from Glee.Frentol Higgins andmay be so happyeverything that hesaid made me laugh. I I love him he's so great me too. Heus l, good person,inly yeah. Besides eelanes yeah, I like love hat, he was therelike. He was there because there has to be a male presence for the firstmeaning of the arranged couple, but like the arranged marriage guy prochantis he's really hot, owe am Davy thought he was going to be an UGOten. She said it to his face. He was hot and, like he'ssmore amazing he'slike...

...not wet out that Comla thought he wasgoing to begain he's like everyone o every other woman. I met like tries tobe like my mom and, like I really schedule, I want someone who's who's,smart who's. Funny like I, don't want someone who's, just kind of subserviantand does whatever I ask he's so chill yeah, and they just really hit it off, and itmakes me happy for her yeah. Also at this point, Steve sneakes into thehouse, and she asked dumped him because she's like Oh forsansa little bitbetter than you steeve no fen, and it's just like kind, o crazy that he justbroke into the house. Yes, he as actually really annoying during this whole episode. Davy ishaving weird flashbacks to the night. Her father died and it's kind of almosther and her mom's fault. The reason why he had a heart attack, because Davi'smom and her gone to a fight because she couldn't find her sheet music for theOrchestra Concert and the DAB was trying to D Moham was trying to diffusethe situation and Um d devy overhears her mom like sayingthat she's, not her daughter, and that it'sall his responsibility now, because she doesn't know how to take care of Davyand so the whole time Dave's trying not to freak out at her mom. And she actually is able to play theHarb, which is something she couldn't do before. Yeah like it just like madeher too upset because her dad died in the middle of her playing the harp. Butlike and like we find out that she said she like hated her mom right before herdad died, and that was like really like escaated t all and then at the end oflike this meeting between pean and COMELA UM, like their uncle likeaccidentally, says that the MOM welsome to move back to India and um she freaks out like this is the firstshe's ever heard bit like. Of course she'd freak out about this Um, and butshe ends up saying that she wishes her mom was the one that died that at that concert, insed of her downthwhich brings a stabiside of ten where Deby was so upset by everything.It just happened that she moves in with Ben Um. She was like, I can't ask myfriends were not talking. I can't ask Packsin ta be like kind o Weird and she the school tat to bend like. Can I move in with you um and basically this is like the episite,where she finally like. I think all of them are like managing their grief forthe first time, instead of like realike pushing it to the side, because her mom is looking to sell the houseand is just thinking about all the memories that they have there and Davy is trying to like s it's her, herdad's birthday as well and she's like seeing all these memories, and but also she wants to get emancipatedand there's just like a walk going on yeah and basically like her momsfinally wants to spread thr her dad's ashes Davy's like thinking. Oh, this isa ploy to get me to go, come home and then go to India, but it's really justlike. She doesn't want to let her dad go M, whichis why she wosn't wawting to spread his ashes. But the best part of the wholeseries happens in this episode because, when she finally decides to go with hermom to to Malhich is wherether Um spreading. His ashes Shshe runs intoJohn Magmerol at the beach she's like trying to call for help likenot for help but like to get her mom to...

...like wait until she can get down to thebeach and she her voice isn't loud enough, but his voice is and he it'slike- hey, islike way s that yeah as great, also bendrobe her to Malibo and afterit's all over, they smoothd they make out. Now they ont go on Makeout Sush,however, during this pastid seems to be calling setting usup for season too and he's also l Ke, he's like at her house trying to talkto her and like just calls her and it's like love, trying, yeah, okay, so that wasit never have. I ever wres ye I took me took me a second to get intoit, but I I feel invested now. I I woulddefinitely watch a second season, not all in one go like I did last night Um, I watched ten episodes of that showlast night, so I I'm a little a little over it for right.Now I invested in Debiam Ben. It may be Paxton we'll seehe seems like a good Guy Hes, just like Iever, an the show has their flaws. Yes, except for Packin six sister Rebecca,Oh yeah, oh Myin, the last episode where she lak complee completely roasthim yeah. That's why I yeah that's why Packins at our house, because Rebecca'slike? Why are you like? Why isn't she, yourgirlfriend, like she's, an amazing person and you're, just like treaningher like garbage, like he's like? No I'm not but she's like Yuess, you arelike fixes and then well. I really like her her lion where shesays. Oh No, and he says what and she goes you're aduce and then Walkh away, yeah quean she'sshe's great, but would you watch season to if ithappens, 'cause nothing's really happening right now s yeah. I actuallyreally like this. Show I've never been able to really find a show where I coalwatch an entire season and one night and not want to die. I just really appreciate how it how itshows high school life like it's, it's ridiculous, but also at the same timeyou can relate to it, which is what I appreciate from some of my favoriteshows like some of my favorite shows, are like theoffice or arrested development, and those are all shows that you can relateto, but are also so ridiculous that it makes it funny nd. That's what I reallylike about this like you can relate to the high school aspect, some of theissues that the characters are going through, but at the same time they findthemselves n the most extreme and crazy situations, and I just reallyappreciate that yeah. It definitely grew on me and it's I think it's reallynice 'cause, the episodes are less than thirty minutes, which I alwaysappreciate. If you can like Fi, I feel like they fit a lot intothirty minutes that it wasn't like way too overpacked or just like I don't know I felt like it was reallygood spacing and it wasn't like Um love an the time of corona where itjust then elt underdeveloped, even though, like they were short episodes,it felt like they really thought it through, which I reaed all thecharacters had a chance to grow, and I also like that a show. That's reallygood, especially t a comedy show like this. What makes it really good is that isable to evoke all these different emotions in you. So like at one point,multiple points in this show I was...

...and it's the first season and I watchedit one night and I was crying at some of these episodes and then it was sofunny at some points that I was laughing out loud in my room and thenother points I t was like screaming like when Pakon Kissed Dabi, like Oi,was like it just envoked, so many emotions in me. I think that makes ashow really successful and then also like rage like whenever Davy would makea really bad decision. So I appreciate it. I thought, like it was a reallywell put together, show and, like I had my one one thing that bothered me butMHM I don't know- maybe maybe they'll develop, that in theseason too. I D. ' I don't know when Isbel goes on ar rand this time and notme, it's it's rare, but it happens. Oh Iguess that was that was it yeah. That was like a lot but good a lot, and we actually had this one planned, I'm proud of us for like knowing thatwe were like a couple of weeks ag. We like we should watch this show we didn't like do it until last nightright before we're going to record, but we CRI oo, but we still decided that we were goingto watch Tho show and we did it. So hopefully we had some problems withspotifying last week, so this maybe the week after we recordeddepending on if those problems are still persisting, but hopefullythiswill be up. On September theofourteen September, fourteenth, if not we'll, put it up on the twentyfirst umand yeah, we're excited to get NTO our next show. We don't know whatthat one's going to be yet, but we'll think about it. You have any suggestions or anythingfel free to reach out to us. Our ISROOM is how we never podcast. Our twitter ishow we never and our facebook is Howr. Ve We' never seenthis before, but we mainly use insegrament winter and this they shouldall be up on you tube as well. Um weare live on you tube. If you WAN tosubscribe, it's the same name as everything else, and you can leave us some comments. Wewe got some weird comments on some of our videos, but those were deleted. Um Yeah, just say hi and uh, we'll see next week or in two weeks opinnn. Whenthis goes up, Byanfr Pyey, congratulations. You've made it to theend of our podcast. We hope we enjoyed listening. How have we never seen thisbefore is produced by Isbael Oron? The music is by Scott homes. The podcastart is by Michael Beaumont over at monitor comics, and our social media iswon by Lawrancola. Thanks for listening.

In-Stream Audio Search

NEW

Search across all episodes within this podcast

Episodes (31)