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How Have We Never Seen This Before?
How Have We Never Seen This Before?

Season 2, Episode 5 · 1 year ago

Pen15: "You Are My Actual Rainbow Gel Pen"

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In Season 2 Episode 5, Isabel and Lauren discuss Pen15.

Join us as we travel back in time with the creators of Pen15 as we relive some of our own, awkward, middle school memories. 

If you want more from How Have We Never Seen This Before, feel free to subscribe on Apple Podcast and Spotify, and give us a follow on Instagram at @howhaveweneverpodcast!

Also, shout out to Michael Beaumont @monitorcomics for our podcast art!

Thanks for listening!

Everyone welcomed back to Hav. We neverseen this before this week. We watched ten fifteen and yes, we're going tocall at ten fifteen for the sake of censorship joinus, as we travel back in time withthe creators of pen fifteen as we relive some of our own awkward MiddleSchool Memoriesthis is a cloadcast where two best friends talk aboutmovies, they've, never seen before. I'm Isabel and I'm Lauren- and this is howhave we never seen this before you know like when you're in middle school andsomeone's like, let me write Penn, fifteen or join the pen fifteen club,what you? Never! No! I don't know what club you ere in, but it's not a club.It's just like a joke to like make like that. On your hand, oh I don't the like.On your hand, you have to wear it like all day. I never saw you with pen. Notme I've heard of a feple do Itno, I'm not I'm not like that. Well, you brought it off, so I don'tknow so. Basically, this show they're on the second season right now,which the second season just came out, but we thought it'd be a good time tocatch up and we decided to watch the the full first season of it andbasically, this show centers around two best friends, Anna and Mya, and it'sthere start of seventh grade pretty much just their first day an and goingthrough the ear and middle school dramas which is so cringy, but sorelatable and foty at the same Tim, so relatable, it's insane like. I couldn'tbelieve how much I related to this. I was like a little sad. Did we alllive the same lives like how I wasoy people relate to this show I mean yeah. I like I, I picked us out right away like it meanin in them. Oh really yeah, I think well, maybe just in the second one Iwrote it somewhere, but I was just like my God, I'm Mya and you'R aunt. What my like, okay, O we'll get them when weget there. Okay think you're Ana Animoa, I honestly don't know who I'd want tobe more Beit's, pretty they're, both pretty unawkward yeah. I mean we were in six and seventh and seventh and eighthgrade yeah o where you're apart. I don't know. If anyone knows that yeah, do you want to do the Car Lek start thecharacters sure. So. First we have Maya she's one of the main characters. Likewe said Um, her mom is Japanese. Her name is Yuki Umand, her dad is he's in a steely Dan um cover band and so he's like always toring Um, some keycharacteristics about MIA. That explains who she is. She has a rollybackpack sang a lot a talke about this before,and the boys at school call her Ujis, which is really mean it means ugly asgirl in school. This is why I don't Wanto like attribute Um, who we are? Okay, not we don't relateto every part of every pairing tdbut. There are other points of adding Sorr.Yes, so, throughout the show she kind of struggles with the fact that all theboys call her Ugis and it tears own herself esteem and she's justdiscovering herself as a woman throughout the first season. That's what we're going to say is agood way to put it yes, and then you have anna she's, the tall friend Um. I don't know what else there is reallyAbou. Her her nickname is na her parents are having a rough time, so hermom is a stay at home, mom and her dad. Idon't know what he does, but they our youtr the entire first season and itends with them ultimately deciding to get it. Divorce Anna's also a really good singer, yeahand she's. Really in love with this one boy...

Alex Yeah, yeah she's really in livewithout there's, also like a bunch of SI characters like imire the two maincharacters, and then Maya has a brother named Suji andthere's like boys, the ther, their friends they're sam, there's, Brendon, there's Alex. I think one of Sujus Ensis Evan and I don't know why I have brant andDuston. I don't know who they are: Im brant is a Mayas crushed in the firstepisode, he's kind of the one who starts the you just Murmur: Oh okay,okay, I don'now, who doesn't m be another. Oh dusens comes up in the lastepisode I think or Zeparant that's Fer Aunt Dustin isbrant' best friend he's the one with the earing got it: okay, okay and there's alsosome mean girls, Becca and heather, and there's like five of them, but you onlyreally see Becka and Hanna or hheaven. Wait throughout the whole show everytime they would talk about, heather being really popular or as thinking ofthe coning Grey Song Wel. Wis, yes, is that it on the characters. Yeah I mean. There's no, like people,don't really develop that much beyond n on Mi so orlike have any background so yea, it's just them, maybe in the second season,but not rno yeah. So I guess we can get into episode. One for the. I didn't writedown the names of the episodes 'cause. They weren't. I didn't think they wereproblematic, lic thea nor sunny so we'll just going into it. So episodeone is like their first day of seventh grade and at first I didn't think I could relate to itbecause it was set. It's anthe early, two thousand and there w's like a lotof early two thousands references, but it's stuff that I understood as a kid.But it wasn't like something experience like connecting to the Internet. I lkdnever went on the Internet with the dial up when I was younger 'cause. Wejust had computer games, so it wasn't like I knew about it, but I never hadto do that. EAH. I was never allowed on the Internet for a good reason, because these girlsget into some trouble Eya scary, but anyway, so we meet Annan they're, two best friendsand Myo they're, like talking about like whatto expect for the first day of seventh grade and my gets up in the middle of the nightbefore school and she cuts her hair and, like I've, cut my hair before, but justlike. Oh No yor mom sees it the next day and givesher a bullcut and it looks so bad. I felt awful Yeh, but they also Um. I don't know by the end of the season.I think it looks a lot better like at the dance at the dance yeah. Itlooks. Okay yeah a lot better than what we see right nowand they they all car, pull together. So Anna, my my hus brother Suji and one other kid Sam, oh it's Sam on'. Iforget that so on Sam enters the car for the first time and he startsarguing with Maya. I knew immediately that something was going to happenbetween them, set it up the very first scene that they're both in yeah, soyeah, like as the EVASOS develop. You can see that Sam really likes Myen my'sgot Ta crush on the Sam, but it's the friend you' like Oh you're, my friendlike. Why would I, like you kind of thing, but so as they pull up to school,they both Anna and Mia, are like. We got a step on to the sidewalk at theexact same time. They like Squoshin the corridor andthey walk into seventh grade together. Um and Maya has a roly backpack and unfortunately I also had a rolly back so senandn embarrassment right now,it's like so it's so embarrassing. You don't want to bee the kid with theEBACT. So that's where I said. I guess I'm Maya,...

...okay, I guess I'll give it to you. We also mention that my own annareplayed by actual adults T at is my next point. Oky. I S say why do they look so young, butso old at the same time, because theyre thirty year olds playing themselves inseventh grade, but everyone else around them is actual children, but yet somehowthey fit in, like my mindl couldn't comprehend. Ifthey were old, if they were really young really like I I knew they wereolder, like I knew that they were adults playing kids, but they kinda like fit in yeah, weird way:Yeah th y. They did a good job dressing them and doing their hair and thebraces too B T. I honestly appreciate the fact that they didn't choose kidsto play. There two rose because Um that would bereally awkward. I don't know how they would ever find a child or theirparents who'd be like Oh yeah. You can play this role, yeah. That would beCT's two point N and I justappreciate that they did that andat the like, all the kissing scenes and stuff they never got close to, like the the kids, never got close tothe adults, and so they were, they were very kind of professional. I guess inthat sense, so we basically were introduced to a lot of the charactersin this episode. At one point they go to Jym class and it just reminded me so much of our jymuniforms and they would roll up the sleeve so they're kind. A like Tangtops. I'm like I don't know how to explain it, but you like scrunch up thesleeves and put it like, like a muscle, shirt yeah kindof like a muscle, shirtto scrawny, Boise yeah, an like get it Tan or like whatever W or out a gym,glass and they're, just trying to figure out likeif these guys, like them and someone in a classoom hands. Maya a note that says they like her andthey had INA. No that says they likeMaya and they read it at their locker andlike they're supposed to meet this person, and these guys run up and callher Yujis, which is the ugliest girl in school, and my it's realy really sad. Obviously, L.I couldn't imagine someone calling me that when I was probably at my ungly like I would I would I would never go backto school. I would ask to be home, schooled honestly yeah, but it's reallycute 'cause Anna's really there for Maya and it's it's a good best friend moment,and she also goes to her brother and her brothers like there for her. Alsolike I don't think we mentioned this, but before in the episode there are abunch of papers up on the lockers saying that, like Alex loves, my h briant loves my H,all the likeboys in school love her and when she finds out that they were justjoking and making fun of her behind her back Sam h takes all of the papers down. I know I love him sometimes and yeah. Herbrother's there for her, he like teaches her how to give her a lot ofmean words to say back to the boys, but it's nice athe's, like he got, reallyupset as soon as she told him that she was called ujiss yeah and it was it wasnice. Also, the soundtrack is really good yeah. I love it yeah. I guess theepisode just ends with her going to fight the boys and getinto a verbal fight with them, and she goes too far by bringing up one of theKid's dead, Dad and Everan at scoolly. Why would yousay that? Because he starts crying and they like sprint off into her her mom'scar, and then I think it's Anna, she says Youare, my actual Rainbow JeilpenHi's, like the biggest compliment you could give someone in the early two.Thousands ywhat's like shocking to me about this show is that it's anawesomeness t v show mhm like I always expect. The worst shows like that moviewith Camer on Dallas. That's what I expect from also. I definitely didn'twatch that whatever that was it's like it's not a good movie. It's the worstmovie ever, but Um Yeah. I was not...

...expecting that also, I feel likethey're, probably branching out with their demographics here, because Ithink awesomeness T V is usually for, like younger kids, younger than US yeah,I cant Lik, O actual adults or o when you're twenty two years old and you'vereferred to yourself as a kid but yeah. I really appreciate, likethem, stepping out of their their regular content, an making us something.That's that's like Um, a coming of age series for people whoare like millennials and Zaleneols, but I guess et Coan, be oneepisode too. Okay do do you know what Calico crutners are nowait. Maybe if I saw a picture, I probablywould it's what they were playing with at the beginning of this episode. Dothey just call them something else? They don't call them anything they're,just like playing a game with them. I thought they were playing with likeSylvanian galls or something that's thei. That's what they're like callingthem. That's like their their town in their play thing. Oh, A I'm! LOOKING IT UP! Okay, were you? Okay? I was a Barbiepolly pocket American girled, Al kind of girl, and I feel, like you were likemere tmore of what they are more of like a a Calico crirters kind of girl, butyeah I had. I had all four I had all of it did you play with polipockets orbarbies mm O, I said remember when we played with thebarbies in like seventh and eighth grade, and we la litly here exposing o what we like what our world was with them, butwe like duct tape, clothes on them like, like we put clear tape and we like made outfits onthem and stuff too weare. Definitely too old to be doing that we are like when we were in seventh grade. Wewould play office and stuff like that. I feel like that'sweird for seventh graders, especially seventh graders, now seven or seventhgraders now. Definitely, but I feel like for ours now you like cocaine, I I don't know, I don't think it's it.Was that weird, like Oh wait, I feel, like you were a Cali curters WebkinsCanagal that also had web KINS Yep yeah. I just had like two Webkins. Ihad very many, my mommusum as like, not like bribes but like if he didsomething like. If we completed like a lot ofchores or something we'd get one o. It was a great incentive system that is 'cause. You have them as an actual sepanimal and you have them online in the webkins world, but tha episode anyway, Anyway. Sorry Um, basically, the Girls Anna gets this new caravan or like house. That, like is aCALICO critters set, and she tells my about it at school. I she hasit in her backpack and she's so excited and they 're both like. Oh my gosh. We gotta like play this when we get home and everyone really makes fun of them,which is so sad and like it's pretty mean and I's like I'm, so glad I didn'tgo to Public School 'cause, I'm too fragiile. For that, like I definitely wouldn't havesurvived Um. We were lucky that we didn't get bullie in middle school, but the people who would have bulliedus were just as like goofy yeah. We were all like at our school. We wereall pretty pretty weird, so I fir it might fun of they go to thebathroom in the school like once room and thesegirls are in there and they drop a cigarette. And then they, like ateacher, comes in and or the the janitor yeah the janitor comes in andthose girls ere now, but they lefte a cigarette on the floor. So Ann and IAtake it when they leave and they're like experimenting with being bad girls.I guess- and they like put on really dark makeup and they decide to go tothe gas station to buy some witers and they're. Like do I buy four or threelike n? What what do people use and eventually they are walking home and they go. It's not heather's house at', someoneelse's house, itbecca's house, this girling Miranda o she doesn't come upagain, but they go to this girl's house...

...and they're having Ta sleep over and theyhave beer there. So Ann a's a little freaked out, but whileso she goes to the bathroom and Anis in the bathroom MIA like takes a sip ofbeer and annigets really upset because they're supposed to have all theirfirst together, which is like Kindo word. So then she like chugs, the entire beercan and they then they start inhaling computercleaner, that they start doing wiph it, which, like is so dangerous like, likeso at my job at school, we're like cleaning up e entire office, just'cause no one's been in there since March, and just like Aswin just 'cause like to clean everything.It's like pretty dusty and their none's been in there for six months, sevenmonths now, so I was cleaning it and to get like dustsout of the cokeyboards and stuff. We have that cleaner and if you press that for too long it getsso cold in your hand, 'cause it's like Freez, freezing andstuff like it's just like it's, not air. It's like actual. I don't know what it is, but ite lydangerous. I don't know I don't know either. I can't say I've ever Don withit or would ever do that like your hand like sticks to the bottle, because itgets so cold and like it can like be freezer burn on things. If youlike press it too hard, and you don't know if you're like doing that so like I was like. Oh my God, please do notlike freezer burn the back of your throat, but not to mention it likestraight up. Destroys your brain cells yeah. She passe MIA, passes out instantly H, but yeah eventually, boys come over and they're all like trying to make out with each other, but no one wants to be with Anna and shegets sad because they won't have their first kiss together and then Mayaislike Oh. This is weird. She like gets into th the girl's mom's coat and islike I'm a scarecrow. Then, when that mum finally comes home,I gets in trouble for drinking and they kindof have their first fight.Because- and I was really upset about the beer thing and then the first kissand everything and Yeah Yeah Ohan. The episode ends with themdeciding to hide the cigarette that they had from earlier that they neversmoked in the closet, with Um the dolls that they were playing withfrom the beginning for the future yeah yeah. So a was upaote to you get anepisode three great. Oh you TN that perfect ad, Oh my God, okay! So this episode, Um we're Gongta talk about the word, a lotmaster Vation, so basically th. The general plot of thisis that Maya, Hasa sexual awakening pretty much and Um gets really into master. Beating whallAnna is struggling with family issues, so it opens with Maya playing with mylittle pony dolls. Andhe gets turned on by them like the dolls, kissing or whatever andyeah she. She does her thing and Um that happens, and then, while this is happening, Anna isat her house and her parents are fighting Um and just like screaming ateach other, and the next thing I have is everything isturning my on: Oh okay, they're back at OAS they're at school, the next day andMIA's like freaking out, because, like she's looking around the room and justevery everything is turning her on and Um it's it's Um. She goes into thebathroom or whatever and decides to you know. Do her thing there andmeanwhile, Anna over here's, a conversation Um that this band iscoming into town. I forget whih fan it was Um bewitched, okay, Yeh, so they'recoming into town and Qeono, two arethey...

...in Philly. What are they in Philly? Ihad to look that up because Qeono two is our radio station, like the mostpopular radio station in Philly and Um. I looked it up and it takes place inCalifornia, which is they have a cuin ot. Do too, I don't know, I guess so,but yeah I I was so excited when I heard qne or two, because I knew tomingPA like they, they would mention Philly, but O so ann. It was like we need towin these tickets on the radio station like we have to call like a thousandtimes come to my house or something and well we'll call and M Maya says to Anna that she has planneswith Sam to work on a project, and so really she wanted to go home and UmJerk Aoff Andof. So Anna is back at home, she's,sad and she's freaking out, because all she can hear her parents areguing, andso she leaves to go to Sam's house but um, because she assumes that Mi would bethere. But her parents say that Mil was never there and so anni was prettyupset. And then the next thing I have is everything isturning MIA on at dinner and Um. This is the same day as Maya'sOjichan's birthday, so her grandfather, passed away and Um today would havebeen his birthday. Unsi they're praying to him and Maya's mom says that he's alwayswatching and my starts freaking out, becausethat would mean that Ojichon's always watching her when she's master, beating and so Anna is at Sam's house hangingout with the boys and they're watching porn. So she leaves, and then she findsout, that she didn't win the tickets or anything because she didn't call solike. Why would she have won and then o Jichan visits Mya in the middle of thenight? And she like starts freaking out and the next day at school? Ann WasReally Mad at Maya for lying to her and hiding something and Maya says it's,because she sees dead people, and so they decide to get a Weegi boardand Um. They ask if Ojichons in Mya's room- and it says yes and then it spells Clit,Onthe Weegy board and then my ends up coming clean about everything and yeah.That was basically the plot of episode. Three one thing that I notice aboutthis episode is that Maya has half a heart on a necklace that says bestfriend, and I realize that I have half a heart that his best on it at the other half. I know we've definitelylike gottenstuff, like that. I remember going to Clares and getting those I've I've gotten them withmultiple people. So don't know what Hends I have hm I aret Willyou. I like the idea of having a lot of gestfriends, not like a Wa. I don't have a lot of friends but like multiple best friends yeah, but also I really like their friendshipin this because at the end, when MIA comes clean, she'sreally upset about everything she's like I'm so gross, and so weird and andIAS like wh. I mean like I Kinda, do a similar thing and she makes her feellike Ok about everything which was nice yeah. I think Anna is a really goodfriend, but Maya. Sometimes it's not the best friend my like seems to get really jealous alot, and I don't know if that like stems from the whole hugest thing or if it's I don't know something else,but yeah episode. Four, I this was my favorite episode. You cando this: okay, okay, fine I'll, do it so maya and Shujige a note from theirdad who's in the steely Dan Coverband, and he basically tells her all the things that's goingon in his life. It seems like really extravagant M hi. His bands tour andshe starts. Making up little white lies to make herself seem a little cooler toher dad and Um yea h. So she brings up the fact that there's a concert thisupcoming weekend Um and it's their school band anqhoirerthe next day at school, Myatels Anna...

...during band practice that allex, thethe boy that ANA has a crush on is single and they start they start practicing andban, and the the band teacher is principal Franklinfrom I carley. I knew he looked familiar, but Icouldn't place him. He does this part perfectly of a band teacher, O yeah, Um and so they're practicing for thethe night of amazing music. That's what it's called, I think and Annas at home and her parents seemto be doing better and then Mya has to play the Tymphony, which isthe first time I thought that, like you, could have related to Maya, because youdid play the Tympany of Dan, I never tuned at once. So I was on Toki Um, yeah N, so the TND heter yells atthem all the time, which is just really funny because I feel like allbandteachers are crazy. Yeah. You have to be to be a bad teacher yeah, and so he really reminded me of ourMiddle School bannd experience Umtet. His whole episode reminded me of middle,so andafter after ban practice, Anni get anote from a random guy, but she can't read whatit says. So she goes to biology class or whateverclasserand and they look under a like. She looks under a microscope with hernew partner WHO's Alix and she finds out that some guy named Brendon is intoher, but she doesn't really care because Sheis so infatuated with Olice,and he says that he's going to the concert. Kiss E has o I just wroe. Thisis the best episode. It is so accurate, OIT's because they're so now it's choirpractice and Anna's competing for a solo with heather and so heather startsinging happy birthday, just like just like an average singer like in middleschool and then I anna's turn and she starts singing it like a professionalsinger and everyone's like staring in all at her and so yeah. Meanwhile. Soshe gets U Solo and Um. Meanwhile, Sam is helping Mya with hertempany sheet music and they're kind of having a moment breathing together, wejust lither to breathe yeah um she's, really nervous 'cause her dad, like shereally c her dad's a Germar, and she really wants to live up to yeah hisexpectation of her MHM. So my dad decides to come home because she toldhim that she has a solo. Andso he's he's like. Oh, I need to come home tosee my girl in cunting the tour leaving the tour early, and so she comes home to see him and theystart getting into a fight because he's trying to teach her how to play yeah.And so now it's the day of the concert and the ban directors picture is on the the camphlets, which is just so funnylike those little things make the show hilarious like how is everything like they went to Middle School ten twelve years before we did, butstill it the exact same MHM, and so it cuts you, the the the choir performanceand Anna Singing Oa, Maria alllessly and hether the girl. She competed forthe Sola with has to do the sign language accompaniment and, while she's singing her parentsget into a fight and her mom walks out and then Mya's back stays like drinkinggenterail, trying to calm down in her handste freeze, up erfeeling claws and,and now it's finally time for the the band performance and they play anoriginal song composed by the band. RRECTOR and SAM is trying to hype upMaya during the performance which he's getting every note wrong and then allof a sudden in the middle of the performance she decides to do a Tympanyso low and she it's not written in the sheet music andshe messes the whole song of and everyone's just staring at her and then after after she stats playing Um the rest of the band tries to find thespot that they were at and start playing but Everan at a different place,and I was laughing so hard at this...

...because our middle school band,whenever someone would get off track and like we would get lost and like itwas a disaster. It would sound just like that and then Baya ends up puking, Oh and yes, so the performance is over.After that lovely song, and so Anna finds out that the boy that's beensending her notes. Um Is this kid who wears a fedora andshe says yes to being his girlfriend, and it ends with US finding out thatmys dad also lies about his popularity and he's not actually in like a famoussteely Dann cover ban, it's just. He plays at motels and stuff like thatYeahthetas a Wot, but that that was probably one of myfavorite episodes too. It was just being in middle school band and likebaned, thouut, high school and everything it's just like so relatable and those outfits, theYeaante with the black flats and then a white buttondown shirt that you stolefrom your parents yeah. It's the the uniform of a a musician so episode. Five is their communityservice projects they forthis one classthey all to do mandatory communityservice and Anna and Maya signed up for a fashionshow at a nursing home with Heather's mom and all the popular girls, and thisone other girl and while they're at fashion show practice they see heatherbeen over and she's wearing a thong, and they the girls are like pretty meanthey leave Ann and Mi out of everything, but they go M. Heathers, like Oh, you want to seemy grandm's room and they say only people who have been to Heather's housecan go and that's everyone, but Anna Mia. So while they're gone, they gothrough her bag and they put on her lip gloss which is gross in itself, andthen they also take this thong out of her bag and they put it on and like it was over. The Anna put it on and it was over herINEERSO. It was like not that bad, but then then mine takes it home, washes it in the sink and then like this. Is She like? Let the water dripon her face and Oit was so weird and then they dry it with the hair dryerand she like wears it, and she there's just like a long Montagor something of myeis like looking at herself in the mirror like if, if children were doing their partlike it's not possible. Exactly and later we find out that heather stole it from her mom, so she'sfreaking out about having lost this, and they keep saying they'll, give itback the next day and they never do because they both keep wearing it andpassing it off to each other in between classes, so they're both wearing it atthe same time, it's so grovs, and it's so gross and like this goes on forprobably well. I don't know how long it's until they finally decided to giveit back at the fashion show. So it's at least another week at school, justpassing off the same pair of Underrear D. Oh, it's so gross, and they finally, at the fashion, show they'repaired with other likewith members of the nursing home e part of thecommunity. So they walked down the runway and Anna's first. And then this girl Becca comes after her, andshe like puls down in his pants to like, expose her for wearing it like she's atthe one wearing it my as en wearing it. So she anna runs back and tells my likeshe's Goinno, try and pull down your pants and which is like so awful and she does tryit, but Mi holds her pants up. So it's okay, but then like we have to give itback. L Ke! We can't keep this like all this has been going on. We can't keepit and- and I tris to rip it off Omaya so stretchy that it's just like thestring out Ofeit's, so funny M and they're like Um heathers mom tells them like to allturn around and home and like whoever...

...have it like, put it in the middle and no one does it. So they just kind of keep it until eventually at theright. When they're about to leave Mya takes it and kisses, it puts it in like a pile of stuff. So it's like she can have it back. That was also a pretty funny episodeyeah, but like also very gross yep, veryunhygienic, so an episode six, it's they have a school project that theyhave to do about Oseoporosis. I don't know like whatclass that would be for but um they, the project, is that all theythree ofther girls come over and they're going to be the spice girls,but they're, going to be old, spice girls and then drink milk and then be really strong which weird, but so, when they're deciding who g seewhich Spice Girl Mi really wants to be proshpice. But then the girls make herbe scary spice because they say that she q looks the most like her and thenlater, when theywere actually recording video. They make her be the the servantbecause they say she looks Tan and that's like the role of a servant. So it's justlike straight uracism to and they're just being races giving herthese parts, and she also like says she pretends to be Mexican while she'sshe's like Mimic Orum Yeah. They like give like the line thatthey give hurt. They're like Oh, like you should pretend to be Mexican, which is justracist as well. So when they're a dinner they like talk,they also call her a slur too Edea. I didn't really wan say it H. I saw we'dmention it not say the LURLOV. U Mention the factthat they did Sayeah Um Bu whiather at dinner, they're like talking to herbrother, about the show or they're, not a show, but like their video and he'slike that's like pretty racist and Anna's really confused, because it'snot something she's really aware of Um, so she spends a whole night likelooking up eraccism and the civil rights movement and everything Um andshe decides to go to the principal and be like. I have recently become awareof a problem called simigrasysm which, like like that's, really great,that she like educated herself and stuff, but the principals like yeah,like whatever this Kinda like works itself out, that wasystemic racism,something that's been happening. Um since the birth of America yeah itsorts itself outhm. Okay, so Anda decides to take things into her ownhands and she creates a demonstration. But what she does is she puts a sign onmyas locker. That says, I am Japanese and then she like Kindof, like quoteunquote, hires these theater kids, to be like read the script and they'relike they say something: Racist about Japanese people and then Anna walkd outof a room and is like this has been a demonstration about, like that's whatraces and looks like and mine is incredibly upset, and that goesto the principal and everything and Um they're fighting and she's like. Why do you do it? You,don't you have no idea what it feels like to be like made fun of, because I'm you'reJapanese, like Youre you're white, you don't have to worry about this Um andthey um they're in this big fight. EndWhivrmaya, my hangs out with her brother and his friends for like alittle bit and they're like well, you should fight her. They also teach her that racism isn'tjust Sh. She thinks that racism is linchingand yeah tream examples, but Shuji kind of teaches her that microaggressionshappen and tells her about those, and then she finally understands whatracism usually looks like yeah, and she like has this like moment where shelike, like hears all the racist things at people have said to her she's likewilick. I never realized all that, but they say that she should fight Anna andbasically, they she's like. I don't want to punch you like, I don't wan got punch me Um, but then they like do this coreogrash fight routine, wherethey just don't touch each other Um and like they work everything out becausean as like, I never realized like what...

...this like fell like for you, I was. Ithought I was doing a good thing e. obviously I wasn't and I think it was areally good episode to have yeah like in the midst of, like allthose like funny stuff that happens. It's. It was Goet upisode Ye, especiallybecause the episode was written by the girl that actually plays Maya Yo.That's what happens when you have writers that represent the the characters? Compare that to you always sunny yeah at was good mhmdoyou, know sure altenone ofthou episodes sevenwere getting there people. So in this episode, Anna and Byaexplorer aim ai M m. Did you have AMA as a kid? No,I wasn't allowed to either but middle school. We kind of we kind o didsomething similar with Gemal. Becus were allowed to have aim, so we wewould um ha e, go on Gemail andther. It was kindof like a very similar concept and he would just chat with people on thereand you could also like post to yeah. It was a Co. It caused a lot of dramain our Middle Fo. It was a lot of fun M, so Anna Decides to make her user namebaby spice six. Six six M and Maya decides to make her use ourname diaper nine one one instead of viper nine one one um and soanalogs on and starts chatting with outliks and he's into it until he findsout who it is, and he immediately longs off. WENCD you find out. It's AnnaGowin he's just so mean to her throught the whole entire show: U that'sethingin middle school you're like you really like the boy who's mean to you: Oh yeah,definitely Um and then they ad Sam whos user name, is little man, big D infourteen, and he seems really interested inchatting with Myab ence. She finds out that Mileis in the room with Anna hegets really excited and so yeah then Brendan Anna's boyfriend is onlineand chatting with her and she's not really into him. Like IHE. Just saysthat she has a boyfriend for the Clou. It's like a very middle schooldboyfriend situation like they don't really hang out it's just it's just atitle: they decide to go on a chat, roomcalled hot people in Franklin County and they start chatting with ran a manwho asks ASL and L Ke. If anyone knows at ASL, ifyou don't know it's aged sex location, and so basically, whenever you werelike first starting to chat with someone online I used to whenever Iwould go on Omegol, they would always ask. As L M, did you ever go on, wedever know ver, I hung out with as well. We were good kids, but H. I would hangout with my other freter, then always go on Omegal and talk to like absolutestrangers as Kindo Frek ow no Y. I was likeoutlike Anna in like in this episodelike, this all freaked her outand Fometo. That's why it's so relatablebecause, like it's fun in the moment and then when you walg off you're, likeOh, my God, Um do they know where I live. Am I going to get murdered bythese Rando Ri ye, so they're freed oubt that therandom man is going to find them, but then Maya and Anna are both hooked onaim and Mya starts chatting with what shewho she thinks is a thirty year old man from Hotti's in Franklin County and his name is Um a fly, Miami Broh twentytwo. I think- and she says to him that she's a twenty six year old, blondwoman and he says that Heis a gymret and you find out that it actually SamUm, an so tthey're, both kind of catfishing each other but they're verymuch into each other. Um Brendan Burns, a CD for Anna, which is like such aclassic two thousand thing: Two thousand thing to do: Um Yeah! If someone burned a CD for me,thatw Ma my heart. Well I'LL! Do It for you! Okay, I feel likethe equivalent today is making a spotified platlas for someone yeah it'shard like I, I used to be able to burn CDs on my old computer and then all ofa sudden it stopped working like really sad yeah. My grandfather used to burnsees with M Jazz Music for me, Shas, like it's so sweet...

...m. So then Um Anna and MIA decide totake hot pictures of myuer. Um Fly Miami browh twenty two and lerry pickedher hand yeah it remindlikewhenever. We would take pictures in middle schoolwith, like a professional camera. We'd always think that they turned out likeso hot and like so prerment thy would be so blurry, so overexposed and nherseturned out exactly like that. So they decide to send him a picture of herhand and he's like well, that's so hot, and so he wants to meet her the nextday in the bowling alley and they bring Brandon for backup is for meeting whod.They think is a thirty year old man and Brend, and we haven't described himphysically. Yet he's very short he's he's like a little kid yeah, if youimagine like a short Kinda kind of Chunky, but just like,like that's how, like all like middle school boys generally, are e's. Just like he's got a squishy face,yeah like he couldn't protect Om at if he wanted to wers a Fudora for cryingout loud. Yet so yeah they're at the Bowling Alley,Um and Mayas is trying to figure out who who it is that that's meeting her on the date andshe starts crying because she thinks that he came in and saw what she lookedlike and left like. How would he know no boubt the turn so Brenton tries toKiss Anna and she starts laughing and then, at the end of the episode we findout that Sam is flid Miami Brow and he's like I'm sorry like. I just wastoo nervous to meet you because you, I thought you wouldn't be into me. If Yosaw me in person, but he's really just covering for himself, but why would heask her to hang out in the first place? I don't know like that. Doesn't makesense to me, but yeah Um am I doing episode Ta Eat too. I can yeah yeahyeah you're doing up sity so episode. Eight though a plot of thisis that Brennan Invites Anna to his house this weekend to watch wild thingsM, which is a movie. That's rated R. I've never seen it, but it's apparentlyvery raunchy and it stars in that dillon who is just chef's kiss. I LoveHim and Anna Gets Maya invited to this. Shewasn't initially invited which is sad but they're in band practice, and the musicteacher is just like yelling at this kid who has to use the restroom andit's pretty funny and Um. They leave ban practice and Anna's becomingpopular, because the whole school thinks thather and Brendan her boyfriend are hooking up, but they erly haven't evenkissed or held hands or anything yet, and so- and I was like, Oh my God, likeI'm, going to have my first kiss this weekend at this party and so they're atAnna's house, and they start making out with her bed post to practice kissingand her dad walks in and of ever like screaming, telling him to get out andMaya tries to bring someone from soccer practice because she doesn't want to bethe odd one out and m. She goes out Sam, but this girl named Jena with prewrapin her hair, comes up to Sam and he asks her before. Mie gets a chance,also like that's just so classic like a Pre wrap in your hair yeah. If anyone doesn't know what that is,it's like prurop is Thad. It's usually like a fun color and it'sscretchy and you're you're supposed to like put it on like to wrap your ankleor something, but you always put it in your hair, like as a headband yeah, and so I as just really took me back, but so they're at the Party andBredan's cousin brings the movie over and Bia, sits between Anna and Brendan,and they start whispering about how Brenna wants to hook up with Anna. Sothey leave the room. Um and SAM is getting it on with Jena theprerap girl and Um and myi guess feels a little left outand she goes to like turn to the the cousin and who's like not into it atall, and this really explicit movie is just playing in the background they'rejust watching an all like they've, never seen something like that before,even though they were watching porn in like a previous, he episode well, thepoor that they were watching was like between channels yeah, and so it waslike two seconds of like one boob...

...until Anna is finally going to have herfirst kiss. She goes into Brendon's room and like if you thought that thelove island kissing sounds were craumatizing. You should just skip overthe scene. You CA go, it doesn't show like Sam, actually kissing. The womanwho plays Anna thatht would be really inappropriate. An I said, my Mike. Areyou really inappropriate? It shows them like each person's mouth individuallyand then, like Anna, actually kissing, like a man and there as just e, he likeeats her. I don't know how else to like Saythen, it's so awful. It's like it's very wet like pulls away. Her moth iscovered, and it's just so gross to thing that the that's probably most kisses in middleschool yeah'cause. No one knows MHM, no one knows how to kiss yeah so that happened and kind of. While all this is going down.She finally comes to terms with the fact that she has feelings for Sam Um.Anna comes back into the room is just numb to whatever happened, as anyone would be if, if they werejust assaulted by someone's tongue Um and so the next day, Annis like I, Ineed to break up with Breton because, like I can't look at him the same way afterthat awful kiss, and so she confides Amia and one of thepopular girls is listening and see the p. You know that one of the populargirls is going to tell him immediately so they're trying to write a note andsend it to Brendon before he gets word of it from one of the popular girls,and so so Maya is running around school.Trying to find him to give him the breakup, note and m. She didn't findhim in time and Brenton breaks up with Anna, though now that the roles are averse,she's really sad about it, even though she was the one who like basically broke up with him, ligethough he said, we should break up it's only because she he found out that she wanted to breakup with him, like. I don't understand why she was so upset, but yeah thathappened and then Maya and Sam Talk. She actually said something nice to himand he says like that: She's, a really good friend, yeah Yites n yeah. I just felt that hole episode.This super grows yea not like the whole thing like that. One part kindolikejust gross me out for the rest of it yeah, so episode, Nine Anna stayingover at Myn's house, because her parents are going on this retreat, umto work on their marriage and while she's there she's Kindo. Like the I wrote ideal friend, but that's notlike what I meant. I mean like she's, a friend that your parents want you tohave because she like cleans the dishes and she's just like really polite andeverything Um and Mi gets really jealous of Anna andit's difficult for her to see her gettingalong. So well with her parents Um and at the dinner table, she's likescatting, with her with mys dad like yeah and Um. Her brother, like they're, like getting along, really well they're,just like play fighting like siblings wood, Um and her mom, is brushing in his hair andthey'rel cooking together and at one point during this episode, likeMaya, gets her period for the first time, and it's like, Oh, maybe that'swhy she's like been like so like up and down Um, but she gets really upset when, like kindof the final straws when she sees her mom brushing in his hair and she's,like like whire Jellous, like her mom Sayss, like Lianna, really needs support right now,like you're, not a little girl and Um. She gets really upset and she's likelike. Why am I not you're a little girl, anywmore she's like you're, my littlegirl but you're, not like a little girl, that's kindof! What I got from it likeyour Anna, really her parents are not like doing all right now like she needsa good friend and like a good family to be there for her. So her mom kind of holds her and theyfall asleep and when Anna's parents...

...pick her up after this retreat Um and they get home, they tell her thatthey retreat like really open their eyes, an they're. Getting a divorce. U and Anas clearly upset and she goes to call Myoright away, but no one picks up the phone and she'slike Oh you're, like she's so mad at me, like all this stuff has happened, and then she goes through the schooldirectory and she calls Heather instead because heathere's, one of the onlyother kids in their whole grade. That has divorced parents and she justreally needed somehing to talk to which, like G, that's great, that, like Y, alike R wow, like Hav they're, picked up and like they talk about it. But it's like sad 'cause Mi wasn't therefor Herwhen. She really needed it MHM, but that's Kindof that whole episodeyeah. I just think that M can be a really bad friend sometimes, and so itwas really rough watching her treat Anna so horribly, like making her sleepon the floor and stuff like that. Um, when she's mad at Anna, she likeshe's like can- I just have the bet alone tonight and don't feel good, and she like makes an Osleepon form m an and then episode. Tenwich is thelast episode. They haven't really hung out since Annaleft and my finds out at school, while Anna goes to talk to heather and herfriends that her parents are divorced and it makes her really really upsetthat she wouldn't like. She just assumes that Anna didn't tell her, and she like runs to the bathroom this part as superrelater Bot too so she's still in her period, and shelike Um, grabs like a wat of toilet paper, because she doesn't haveanything else and like puts that in heher and like you have to do like inmiddle school you're like not prepared. That's like something you do all thetime. She also there's like this huge panic when the toilet won't flush likethat Super Lat. What Youre like? I don't want, like the remance of that tobe n the toilet but yeah the cleaning lady comes in and she's Super Niceabout it. She's like trying to like teach her that, like you, can't SheheTri to flush Er pad own the toiand. You can't do that shes like, but she wasn't likejegimental about it. She like gave her tamp on, like here, L Ke. You can havethis in case. You need it. I I have a Tampon in her pocket. I don't know thatwas a little weird, but I felt like it came from a good place,yeah Um and it's so funny 'cause like when she likelooks at it for the first. It's like this giant thing in her hands. I likemade up a fake one. That was massive Um, which was really funny. That's what Iit looks like that when you're like a kid like it, looks huge and putting thatlike in you horrifying, oh so funny M, but there's also a dance tonight and Anna goes to Mye House 'cause they're,going to shave for the first time like super hairy, wags like any likekid, like the first time, Um ther, ere LS of sitting in a bathtubfull of water. So, by the time that they're done shaving, it's just siging, so much hair. How hairythe water is like I'm sorry, but I would never do that with you. No No! It's okay, but MI also gets mad at Annabecause she like heard that she was going to go, get ready at heathershouse and stuff m, but her mom's, like I'm, not driving Ou to two places likeyou're just going to get rid of here Um, so they get ready and they get theirpictures with their friends. And it's cute and mine's hair looks really good.U She's got little like beads in it. Youknow like the two thousands early clips and it's cute Um and they had off to the dance and they kind o like Maynana separated thedance, Um and Brandon has turn like emo he's Gotd like a spike collar on andhe's like black eyeliner and his airs are lit, not shirt. Yeah, an he's got like a so funny that he'slike you broke up with me an I can't handle it m. What also makes me laughis that M They'r like dancing to these, like really really explicit songs, andI can't believe we used to dance like we used to like get low whenever likelow, would come on H, but it looked...

...stupid yeah. But why were we? Why woulda DJ at a middle school dance play s like songs about grinding and Diditlike this? Is your last ch like on the Las Song or whatever, like get yourgrind on a she's like o? Why Do Middle School Djs? Do that? I don't know itwas gross m, but so the whole time of the dance Sam keeps looking at Maya tooand Jenne gets really mad and they LE and she leaves and eventually Mayamakes her way over to Sam and they have a really awkward dance where they bothhave their hands on each other's shoulders. Um Anna also asked Alexidance, but he saysno M and after that, like heather and all herfriends come over and they're like. Why would you do that to heather butthey're? Also, like the truth, is we're only hanging outwith you, because my mom said that we had to Um and while Sam Ahmaya are dancing, he toldsher that he's the online dating guy and she gets really upset and runs away andlike Tris to like run to Anna, and they have this like weird dance outine that they have likeall pllike they've been working on it, but like that they do for this one songand then they like hug at the end of it. Can we learn that sure we'll put it on techtalk M, then this kid, which I guess is brant yeah,it's brand bra like comes up to them and he's like. I forget what he says. First says: HeyYouust, Oh okay. He says that and then Mayo like flips out at him and thenhe's e. He says: Do you want me to finger youand then they're like yeah, okay and they go to a closet? And he just like put one of his hands on each of their boobsand it's like he just moves m his hand up and down Itas, very styeh and then,as he leaves, he says I love you. He does Yeah Ami. Like I love you too,I thought he said. Don't tell anyone about this. He says that and then hesays I love you, my God. I miss that Oh yeah, so funny. Also, I like how you could lik tell that no one wasactually like touching the other person. Yeah Yeah. Definitely not like. I said before, ktstwo point of and then so they go to Mye's house at the end ofthe dance and Um they. I don't. I think they were talking. Ididn't really write t down 'cause. Then they go to her closet and they grab thebox at the cigarette was in and they take it and they go and they take awalk outside and they like smoke a cigarette for the first time, which islike a weird way to end the season. I don't know it also KINDOF works. Itties everything together Y. I like that, but, like that's, that'sthe ind of season one. I don't know anything about season too, besides,like it continues on from here, but like what did you think of the showas a hole? I really like te show. I think that they went about it in thebest way way that they could, because, like of course, like I don't know, it kindof reminds me a little bit of big mouth in the sense of Um. It's a verysexually explicit, show Um a lot of sex humor, but at the same time it's aballself discovery in a sense, and I just appreciate that, because it's not justa joke about a penist to have a joke about Kenus in the show. It'sintentional and it means something- and I really like that- and I also like thefact that they didn't sexualize the young kids m. The only people who werereally sexualized were Maa and Anna and they were plaed by adults and wheneverthey would show Um like maybe something sexual for, like one of like the kidsor whatever they would show an adult yeah and not have a kid's face in it atall, and so I think that that's a good way to go about it because, like it,would be awful to have a show kind o like cuties, like the movie ctis, thatis played by actual kids, that sexualizes young, kids and yeah. I don't. That would not be good. I think it's like and it's nice because, like I feel like so manypeople wi'll relate to this and it's likesomething, people probably have and will watch it. It's just like...

...it's something you want to see like Idon't know like, but they' go about it in the right way.Thanki e yeah, but I really liked it. I thought it wasfunny yeah so did I would you watch season too yeah? Ithink I will I'm Kindo too busy to dedicate myself the whole season.Another season right now, but I think I will watch it yeah me sal, especially'cause, it's out right now, MHM and trying to keep it no more no longerthan it already is m. If you like to have more from Howhave,you never seen this before. You can follow us on insigram and facebook athow we never Pi cast andnll twitter, how we never and as well as on you tubeand yeah. I missing. I don't know, I think.That's IT HYEAH! So we'll see you next week with,hopefully another good show. Thah has I ycongratulations Yo man, it's o the endof our podcast. We hope we enjoyd listening. How have we never seen hibefore is produced by Isbael Oron? The music is by Scott home. The podcast artis by Michael Beoumont over at monitor comics, and our social media is won byLawr Ancola. Thanks for listening.

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