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How Have We Never Seen This Before?
How Have We Never Seen This Before?

Season 1, Episode 12 · 1 year ago

The Kissing Booth 2 Part 2: "It's Always Been You"

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In Episode 12, Isabel and Lauren discuss the 2020 Rom-Com, The Kissing Booth 2, directed by Vince Marcello.

Join us as we continue our discussion and talk about how awkward this must’ve been for Jacob Elordi, how this is not how college works at all, and how predictable this movie actually is.

If you want more from How Have We Never Seen This Before, feel free to subscribe on Apple Podcast and Spotify, and give us a follow on Instagram at @howhaveweneverpodcast!

Also, shout out to Michael Beaumont @monitorcomics for our podcast art!

Thanks for listening!

Hi Everyone, and welcome back tothis week's episode of how we never seen this before. This week we areobviously continuing with the kissing booth to and we don't have any winners for thisweek because it's the same movie. But before we begin, we'd like toannounce that this is the last episode of season one of how we never seenthis before, and we'll be taking a two week break before we come backfor season two. All right, let's go through our little intro and thenget right back into the discussion. This is a podcast where two best friendstalk about movies they've never seen before. I'm Isabelle and I'm Lauren, andthis is how have we never seen this before? Well, not even halfwaythrough my note. Oh my God, my God. Okay, so itcuts to you the next night and everyone's at a bar. L gets tome, all of Noah's friends, and she's pretty content because chloe has yetto show her face. However, she comes in right after she says that, and chloe knows, ever, and at the bar she seems really cool. She starts talking about her adventures in life and she's just a cool person. Yeah, but elves like this sucks and like I gotta go. Ihave interviews tomorrow and I guess the her interviews at Harvard. But after theinterview, the ladies like, you know, let me give you some advice.They wouldn't do this. She's like, I felt like you were answering everyquestion. You were searching for the perfect answer. We just want toknow you. And while they may want to know you, she's not goingto tell you that. And it's also like they've seen so many people aday they don't care that much about what you're saying right then because they haveto go through your application to also, you would assume that after hearing this, that L has bombed the interview. No chance he's getting into Harvard.That that's what I assumed, but no one seems to say that in themovie, because you'll find out later she does get in. Ridiculous. So, and then it's another day and she's packing to leave Jacob's apartment. Jacob, Noah, can I just say that in this scene her wig looked sobad. She's wearing a way throughout this whole movie because she is filming.What the Gypsy rose? Is that her name? Yeah, I don't knowif that's the name of the show or whatever, though. Yeah, soshe played the Gypsy rose character on a show and so she had to shaveher head for it, and so in this whole movie she's wearing a wigand it's so bad, especially in this scene. Okay, everything makes somuch more sense now, because I was like, her hair looks so weird. Yeah, it's fake. But so while she's packing, Noah's in theshower and she drops something on the floor and then she sees an earring thatI was like, oh, so this is probably chloe's earring, and thenshe also sees a text on his phone from her, and there are allthese messages, but I couldn't read them because I'm blind. Same so Idon't know what they said. But then Noah comes out of the shower andhe's like what's wrong, and she's like I gotta go by and then shegoes the airport. Yeah, so instead of talking through the problems, communicating, because if you look at the messages, he doesn't cheat on her, they'rethey're just kind of like flirty, playful messages. But it doesn't it'snot like they've done it doesn't prove anything. Yeah, but yeah, so she'son the plane, she said, flying in First Class. MMM,so you can afford to go to Harvard, who flies first class across the country? That's like so expensive. Oh yeah, so expensive. Yep,HMM, Yep. Anyway, sorry, continue. Um. So when shegets back home, he calls her and and she explains the issue such well, no, she barely even touches on the issues that she has with chloeand Noah, their relationship or whatever, and he says that there's nothing goingon between him and chloe and she believes him. I'm using air quotes rightnow, but you could tell it deep down she still has her doubts becauseshe never brought up her issues. Yeah, yeah, so she never brought upthe the main problems that they're having. So the conversation was really not usefulat all. Yeah, and right after they hang up, he putsa picture of them on his story like...

...that fixes everything. And then immediatelychloe calls and he lets her into his apartment and she's like, you've beenboring since l left, and then he says, I think you're good forme, and then she's like, I know, and the way he saysit's the way he says it. He's it's like, good for you.How HMM. They very much like flirt. It's definitely like flirting straight up.Yeah, and it's your own personal belief whether or not you think flirtingis cheating, like emotional cheating, or not, but it's definitely. They'redefinitely flirting. Yeah. Yeah, so at this point I thought the moviewas almost over, but we're only fifty minutes in and not even and halfwaythrough. Yeah, this is a very, very long movie. So Le andl they're in the arcade, they're practicing and Lee messes up their bigmove or whatever, and Lee's asking about Noah and she's like nothing's wrong,everything's fine, and Lee tells her that him and Rachel are still in kindof an awkward place, like when she left. And then he falls offof the game and he hurts his ankle and I was like, you didthis on purpose. Yep, Yep, Yep, did and Lee's like youshould do this with Marco, he's so good. And then it's like Leegoing around trying to convince Marco and also convinced l that they should do thistogether. At First Marco Says No, but then he's changes his mind,because I think it's because he said that l really wanted him to, andthen they and then crack and then he told l that Marco really wanted to. Yeah, okay. So we get to their first practice and they're alreadyarguing about like what they should be prioritizing, which is really dumb, like shouldn'tthey just get the dance down first? But right, that's what I wasthinking, like don't you need to learn the dance and then do theaccuracy? Yeah, you think I don't. How do you do it the otherway around? Yeah, I don't, I don't know. And then,yeah, so they just argue most of the time. And it's classthe next day and Lee is missing at the very beginning and then we seehe's actually in that morning announcements room or whatever, and he's like talking directlyto Rachel and he's like I I love you, but since she can't reallyanswer him, he's like send me a smiley face if you love me too, or send me a poop Emoji if you don't dumb. And then,as he's like, the principle comes into he's like, let's go, andas he's being a squirted out, he gets the Smiley faces like she's aHismiley face. And so you're going to tell a girl that you love herfor the first time, a very intimate thing, while she's already in afight with you. You're going to say that you love her in front ofyour whole entire school. That that that seems like. That seems like thebest way to make up with someone. Yep, listen here, boys,that's not the way to do it. Do not take any advice. Irepeat, do not take any advice from this movie. Like that is suchan intimate moment that you should be having, that no one else needs to beinvolved in. It's just just you two, and he makes it intothis huge romantic gesture, but it's not even that romantic at all. He'sjust saying I love you on the loudspeaker. Yeah, it's very weird. Andthen it's like the next day, or later that day or something,at Rachel's house and he she's like did you tell l about like hanging outless and he's like, don't worry about it, I fix everything. soHe fell off the thing on purpose. Is He actually hurt? Probably not. And then we're at school again and the OMG girls say to l likehave you seen the photos of Noah's new supermodel and l gets all upset andshe calls him and he's at the gym. He's like can I call you laterin my of course, he's shirtless to and she's like no, Ireally need to talk to you now, and she says that she found theearring on his floor. He says, you can't think that I cheated onyou, like I don't know how that got there. And again she says, I believe you, nothing happened. So she just like I don't knowif she doesn't really believe him, like there's always this like hesitation. It'sweird, Yep. Well, because she...

...doesn't flat out say like I'm prettysure this is chloe's like, let's be real here. She never does that. She never fully communicates with him. It's just annoying. And can't agirl and a guy I ever just be friends? We've discussed this that theanswer is no. Yes, they can eventually, but not like no,like no, and you know why? Well, we've had this discussion.Stop hiving Um. So basically, then it cuts to a scene where Lis practicing with Marco and he says that he is more interested in having funand does some weird backflips. WHOOO, so fun. Like he doesn't haveany of the accuracy, but he wants to make the dance super complicated.Also, I was really, really, really hoping for a Marco Polo jokesomewhere in this movie. I think they do have one. Really I missedit. I think it was like maybe at Field Day. Oh, okay, yeah, I must missed that, but I was like there's like hisname's Marco. Come on anyway. So the next day at school else he'sLee getting out of his car without his crutches on and she's like I caughtyou, like why you do this? He's like I thought you'd have abetter shot with Marco. Like that's his excuse. And then she says thatshe has a new idea for her in Lee's Halloween costume, and we don'tknow what it is, but she basically just forgives him like for straight uplying and like if you ever faked an injury to get out of spending timewith me, I would be so upset it would take me a long timeto like get over that emotionally. But she just doesn't care. Maybe shedoesn't realize why he did it, but it's like, I don't know,she like really believes he had she had her, he had her best interestat heart, I guess. Yeah. But then it cuts to oh soL is back at home and she's trying to get in touch with Noah.I don't know why I wrote his last name down for some of these,and his friends answer his phone and they're like yeah, sorry, Flynn wentto a concert with chloe. I guess he left his phone here, andshe's like you kidding? They want to like he's ditching me for her,which is understandable because they like they set out like a certain time to facetimeevery week, and so he just completely blew her off without even saying anything. Also, like I at this point, I was like, I feel likeshe's gonna do something really stupid. I feel like in movies like thisthat's always the point where the girls like, let me go screw this up evenworse, even though nothing's actually happening. Yep Um. And so she does. The next scene is her and Marco practicing and and they're fighting andthen they're having a moment and she's like let's get something to eat. Sonow they're eating on a ferris wheel. They look like they're going to kissand then she talks about how poor she is. And you know, shedoes seem kind of like a hypocrite right now because she is upset with herboyfriend because he's spending time with a girl that he just met and it justbecame friends with. But yet she feels the need to talk about all ofthis deep stuff with her guy friend to she just met and they're on aferris wheel. It seems like as though both of them are emotionally cheating justthe same. I'm like, she she likes says that she admires him forwanting to be happy and there and she's like some something. The dance thingis her Moonshot, like I think it's like that shoot the moon game.I don't know if you've ever played that. Yeah, yeah, so it's likethe shoot the moon game and the dance competitions her moon shot. Andthey're like talking about their dreams or whatever. And then they don't kiss, butit really looks like they're going to. Yeah, and he starts romantically playinghumming the song on the guitar and she's staring at him with hard eyesand they're sitting on the beach, while like they moved to the beach.Now they're just sitting watching the waves with the amusement park behind them. Thismove, he makes it seem like it's okay for her to do that,but it's not okay for Noah to be friends with chloe. Yeah, likeif she were doing this with Lee, it would be a different story,because we know they're like their friendship, like she's there's clearly something else goingon. And then he she asks him...

...or no, he asks her ifshe thinks her no were meant to be together. But then she's like,I don't know, and he's like, if I were him, I wouldn'tmake you feel like this. Like she's such a hypocrite and the movie doesn'tmake it seem like she's wrong, but she is. But she absolutely,one hundred percent is also in the wrong just as much as he is.He's not the villain. They both are. In fact, she's worse. You'reright. You're right, because of what she does later. You're right. Oh, it just annoys me so much, Um, but sorry forgetting. He did yet again. So now we go to the next sceneand Noah and L are talking and he apologizes for blowing her off and notbringing his phone and she asks who he went to the concert with and helies. So basically he she asks Noah who he went to the concert with, and he lies and says the guys and up chloe. And you know, big mistake there, buddy. You probably should have just admitted that youwent to the concert with her instead of lying, because then makes her thinkthat you're cheating even more. Yeah, I don't understand the logic with that, because it happens. It's not just the movie thing. It's like justsay it, because if you say it, you're saving yourself what's going to beeven worse later. It's bad now, but it could be worse if youjust wait. Yeah, and if you don't say who you're hanging outwith, it makes it seem like you have something to hide. And ifnothing's going on, then then just say it. You don't have to hide. You could just say, yeah, I hung out with Chloe, likewe're getting close, like we're friends. That's all you have to say.Like, and he's never before given her a reason to doubt him, butnow that he lied, now she has a reason to doubt him. Yeah, like he's had the if he passed with girls, but he's since beingwith her, he's hasn't done anything. So there wasn't there'sn't like any reasonto doubt him at this point, I mean until now. So then it'smaybe that weekend or something, and l's at Lee's house and they're carving Pumpkinsand then Rachel comes over with her own pumpkin and then he's like, Oh, I thought, like Lee, I thought you and I were doing thistogether, and he kind of avoid it. He's like, Oh, we justgot carried away and they're like Oh, let's go do something, and thenall three of them go to the beach and while they're they're Rachel's likelylet's let's go on a walk together so they can get away from L.I'll bring your laptop to the beach to which is just weird, like allthe sand in your computer, Oh my God. But then this this guynamed Ali comes up to l and she all of a sudden starts inquiring abouthis relationship with this guy, which is kind of weird if someone's not outof the closet yet, to pry into their sexuality a bit. I don'tknow, like the whole thing, like I don't know, like I justfelt weird about how that all happened and just like I feel like I don'tknow how necessary it was for the movie either, like why did you justto put it in there that she helped get them together? But really thatmuch? Okay, I'm all for like LGBT Q representation and movies, butthis seemed like such an afterthought and this movie was. It just seems likeit was casually placed into the storyline and this movie is already so long thatadding this as an afterthought, not even incorporating it more into the storyline,was just not not it not the right move? Yeah, there, Idon't it just it felt like an afterthought. I agree, like there wasn't ifthat had like played into the story. I told like, I totally wantit there, but it's it was just there because they felt like,oh, we should throw this in there. Yeah, they're like, oh,every other couple in this movie is straight, like let's just throw inthis story. Yeah, I bad decision. So then it's so then it's Halloweennight and they're going to this Halloween party and so they're change in costumes. Turns out to be they become the ghostbusters, and so Rachel's not there. It's so little compared to their other costume. So they originally they weresupposed to be like smores, like Rachel's a marshmallow and they were the twocrackers, and Lee just didn't tell Rachel...

...about the change in costume and shecomes as a marshmallow, which is so awful on Lee's part, like Idon't get why, like I hate that one, like, like why isRachel Getting Mad at L for this? This was all Lee, like hehe could have just said no to changing the costume or he should have justtold her. It's so dumb because in our society, whenever like but likewhenever like a guy does something wrong with like another girl, it's always theother girls fault and they blame her, not the guy. It like doesn'tmake sense. Like chloe. L hates chloe, but chloe's not doing anythingwrong. If if like Noah is acting the same towards her, like,she doesn't have any responsibility to tell him to stop, because she doesn't knowabout their relationship, like she doesn't know that L is mad at her,and like same with Rachel and L, like why is she blaming L foreverything? When Lee is the one that's lying to both of them. Yeah, it's always the other girl's fault and not the guy's fault in in oursociety, which is yeah. So, and while they're at the Halloween dance, I don't remember if I said it, but Rachel comes just as the Marshall, because we forgot to tell her. But Marco is also playing in theband that's up on the stage, like of course, he's been therefor two months now. He's part of a band anyway. And then it'she like comes off the stage and everyone's in a slow dance, and thenhe asked her to dance and they're like the OMG girls are talking about themwhile they're dancing, and then they're so close to each other. I wroteno room for Genie Jesus, but like, like that is straight up cheating.Yeah, that is just why, like why, like, how wouldyou think that that is okay? Yep, and then they also almost kissed twowhen they're snugging up real close to each other. Yeah, I don'tl what are you doing? But also, on a personal note, I wroteI think it's movies like this that make me overthink. When people likeplay songs or something, because they've taught me to think that the lyrics tothe songs mean something in the moment. You know, I know, Ialways look up song lyrics when someone sends me songs, even though I knowthat like they don't mean anything. So, oh so, there's a dance circlethat breaks out after they stopped dancing together slowly, and Lee and ldecide to get in the middle and start doing this like crazy dance, likepretty good honestly for an impromptu dance off, and you see just Rachel, thesad marshmallow in the corner getting pissed off and she like runs away andl chases after her. She's like let me handle this, like maybe I'vetalked to her, and Rachel basically screams at l that she never lets themhave any time, Lee and Rachel have any time alone together, and saysit's all l's fault and it's just ragingly jealous of l. It made meso upset, like what does this do? If she if l still around,then clearly Lee didn't tell her to give them some space. Like whywould you get mad at l? Yeah, it's your relationship. If you andyour boyfriend aren't communicating. That's no one else's fault but your own.Yeah, I agree. Anyway, after she blows up, she runs awayand Lee goes to follow her and follows her back home and then they kindof start to separate at this point and l starts going to school by herselfand Rachel goes with Lee and she gets to sit in the front seat andstuff, but Lee seems kind of upset when it's just Rachel. She's like, if you're know how you feel like if she's pulling you away from yourbest friend when that's not something that you feel comfortable with and that's a problemwith your relationship. Exactly exactly. And also L is being super passive aggressiveto Noah instead of just saying how she feels. And at this point heronly friend is marco. Yeah, they're like hanging out more and more andthey're practicing all the time and if they're not practicing, shoes, pretty muchjust alone and knowing chloe. are hanging out and they were at a comedyclub in one of the scenes and the comic like thinks there are a couple. And then we have to see when...

Ellen Marco are hanging out, Marcoprinted out the dance steps to get better accuracy and she's like, oh,that's cute. And they as they hang out more and more, their accuracygets better. M and this whole montage thing ends with Noah texting L andbeing like we need to talk tonight. So why does l always have herringer on during class? And Now? Also, the way that she opensher phone makes it seem like she deletes all her messages with Noah, becauseevery time she me text her, it comes up as like a new conversation. I know I never delete my messages. I have messages from you that areprobably eight years old. Yep, Yep, it's in like what doyou need that information for some reason? Exactly? What if you need topull up some receipts? But yeah, anyway, right after they're there theirtext conversation, I guess, she starts to Stalk chloe again and finds outthat it is indeed her earring that was under Noah's bed. She sees itin one of her instagram photos and then she starts like having a full onbreakdown in class and no one seems to notice or care. I guess maybecare. Yeah, so then it cuts to their backup dance rehearsals, markgo and L and tomorrow is the big day. It's they DDM dance offand Marco is being so cringey, being like just let go, and thenthere's like a weird it's don't seemed like in like a s or s musicvideo, like it was so weird. The background was like half I forgotwhat the there's a term for it, but the background is like opaque andtheir images of the earring, of like random things that she's thinking about whileshe's dancing. Yeah, it's kind of like the last few months of herlife that are playing in the background and how everything went wrong. But it'salso like this weird they're doing this weird interpretive dance in front of the montage. Imagine seeing the sudden arcade. So Weird. And then I at onepoint it's like she lets go and she's getting into the dance and there's likeall these dips in the dance and it's like they're going to kiss and it'sall this build up to them kissing, but it never happens. Yeah,it's just like just do it because I know it's going to happen. Knowwhen it happens. It needs to be at the specific moment that it happenedat, though. Yeah, yeah, I agree. At the last dipin the song they're right, real close and she's like Ope, got ago and as she's like walking away, he's like your shoes are untied,which was their thing from the field day, and she she gives a little chuckleand fleas and he says Moonshot. So that was his shoot for themoon. I guess it sounds kind of sexual. He didn't do anything.How's that your shot? Like, I don't know. Do you know thosethings that are like I can't believe this boy didn't read my signs? Andthen it says like her signs and it's just her thinking about him, likeyeah, that's shuting. My shot is imagining scenarios with a boy and Ifeel like that's Marco. She yeah. So after the she leaves the arcade. She talks to noah on the phone and Noah is like yeah, we'rehaving a lot of issues, but I'm going to be home in two days, wink, wink. Two days. But I think that we should reallyhash this out in in person, like because obviously we're not communicating well overthe phone, which is, which is good, that that's a good thingto do. Good, good job. Noah. So then she agrees andit is the day of the dance competition. Next it's at this giant Convention Centerin California and everyone there is like a professional dancer. And of courseLee's not there. Her family's not there. But you know who is there?Noah and Marco. Yes, also, like, why isn't Lee there?Like a put aside everything. This is a huge deal for L asher best friend. I think Lee should be there, if, if possible, unless there's some big thing in his way, and there's not. Dude, all he does, Lee is the worst friend. They sucks well tosick. He just text our good luck. And then you left your bag inmy car and I was thinking that would be a problem with Rachel,but it was a problem in other ways. And like the stage for this competitionis huge and you see all these...

...different people performing and they're all amazing, so much better than Ellen Marco. Oh, yeah, sorry, butthen they're up next. Then it's Ellen Marcos turn. Yeah, and duringthat you find out that Lee finds her Harvard application stuff in the bag thatshe left in his car and of course he's pissed because, God forbid ldoes something independently, like he ignores her for so long and then gets madwhen she applies to a school that's not the same one that he's applying to, like are you kidding me? But also, she should have told him, like if this is something that they've been planning, like just be like, Hey, I'm flying, I'm applying to other schools as a backup.Yeah, not a big deal. Why keep that? A normal person wouldbe mad that they didn't that their best friend didn't tell them they were applyingto different schools and assume that they would assume that they would react horribly.But what Lee does is get mad that she actually applied to different schools,which is, yeah, blasphemy. Blasphemy, because he is the words, likehe ignores her for so long and acts like an awful friend and likeLee, like he like treats his girlfriend like he's more important than their lifelongfriendship and expects her to follow him to college after ignoring her, and thengets mad when she is biggie about not doing that. Why did the Flynnboys expect them her to follow both of them? Yeah, what? Anyway, I'm just annoyed Bro Yeah, and so they're doing their dance or whateverand Lee Lee is watching it online because for some reason he's not there,and in the middle of the dance l whispers to Marco like let's have somefun, and then they change up their entire routine and do flips and stufflike. That's not gonna happen. You had so much trouble trying to figureout this dance for nine weeks and now you're like, let's change it.Also, wouldn't that mess up your accuracy? To yes, and some how,somehow, they get a hundred percent accuracy. You can also see thatwell, like I know that a lot of it is her dancing, butyou can tell the parts that it's not, because they won't show her face andlike the big leg lifts and stuff or not her. But you whenshe is dancing, you can see that she misses the buttons every time.Every time she's not on the buttons, it's like there's no way, no, to don't. And when they finish, everyone's clapping like Oh my God,Oh my God, and like they're in this the dip or whatever,and then they're staring at each other for a little too long and then norealizes what's going to happen and then they kiss and it's just like no one'sface looks so funny, but they kids. She's horrible. She cheated on himin front of the entire world, right she she was so mad athim for hanging out with some other girl, but it's seemingly okay for her tojust straight up smooth some man in front of her boyfriend. Where doesthat happen? That happens a lot in something, and it's either after orit's like a movie that's not after. I have no idea, but thiswould never happen in real life. No one's that bad of a person.It's like a soon as something happens, they assume that, no, it'sdefinitely after. Yep, she like thinks Harry cheats on her and then shejust goes and kisses Zane. Oh yeah, that's it. But yeah, sonot only does she break her boyfriend, her loving boyfriend's heart, who cameto the show to see her, but she's also breaking Marco's heart becauseshe led him on this entire time and she she did not reject his kiss, she embraced it. But she also sees that Noah's in the crowd watchingthis all go down. Then she tries to run off stage, but theystop her and they say that she won the competition and hand her a check. They wouldn't. Yeah, like how how she performs and they're like,oh, that's it, stop the show everyone. They want no deliberation.It was they weren't even the best ones. They're anyway. It's like how I'min Camp Rock. The girl who wants the singing competition was nowhere nearas good as the people who sang Astella Vista. I know both, likeCamp Rock, totally rigged. Also, all the glee competitions. Oh,yeah, half of the time, three quarters of the time they shouldn't wantbut thinks you just hold onto holding onto...

...the camp rock thing. So afterthey win their money, l runs and is trying to find noah, butMarko runs after and after her, and she's like I can't do this rightnow, like we can't. I'm sorry, but you're not the one. Ormaybe she says that later so that leaders you just say you're it's likeyou've been leading him on this entire time. Please stop and like Noah won't answerher text. Lee Won't answer a text, but they're still having Thanksgivingall together at the Flynn Beach House and Rachel's utter to Oh, it's attheir normal house. Why would you? You're in California. Why would youhave a beach house and a regular house? Just have a regular house as YourBeach House? They live like ten minutes away from the beach and yetthey have a beach house. That's so dumb. How rich? Like what? Doesn't make any sense. Yeah, so l shows up to Thanksgiving withher family and the Flynn's and she sees that Lee is avoiding her and shegoes up to Rachel to ask what his deal is and Rachel's like please,just don't speak to me. Versus her off to and then she hears Noahsay that he's there, and Noah walks in with chloe and I was likeOh, buddy, why'd you do that? Good Lord. So, like,no one knows. Is that l sorry, my brains is malfunction there. No one knows that hell has a problem with chloe. So why wouldn'the tell her that there, she's going to come to thanksgiving. Just saylike Hey, look like I want you and Chloe to be friends, soI'm bringing her to thanksgiving. It's all you had to start, just ajust a blind side someone like that. And also wouldn't wouldn't l perhaps seethe extra place setting on the table? Here her, hear her dad talkingabout it, here the mom talking about it someone. Yeah, I reallydon't know. There's there's no communication. Yeah, anyway, then it's dinner. So oftenners awkward and then everything gets brought up. The big leg dropis that Lee never told l about telling her not to hang around anymore.Well, it was like Rachel and L are screw. Well, I thinkthat's the first. There many jaw dropping sentences spoken dinner, but that wasthe first one. Yeah, so, yeah, the first one is Lee, like everyone finding out that Lee never told l not to hang around asmuch. So L and Rachel are both screaming at Lee because Rachel's like youtold her, like tell her, you told her, and I was likeI have no idea what you're talking about. And basically it comes out that Leenever told her and Rachel just leaves. There's this some flashback from the lastmovie about how if l didn't like Rachel, he would break up withher or something, and Rachel thinks Lee doesn't really care about her that muchor something, which was weird. The most jaw dropping thing that happens dexis l pulls out an earring. She plays that card. She just hasit ready at the table, which is pretty savage, and she's like,yeah, I found chloe's earring under your bed, and the whole table islike shocked, as anyone would be, and so l storms off and leavesever and just to sit there like and the she like tells her dad.She's like, I'm going to go save the only relationship that's worth saving,and I was like, oh, she's going to find Lee, but no, she goes to find Rachel. Rachel sucks what I know. It's reallydumb. So yeah, so she goes to find Rachel and she starts talkingto her and they make up because Rachel finally realizes that it's not l's fault, that took her long enough. Yeah, that she's having relationship problems. It'sLee's fault, and she's basically like yeah, it's unsavable, but it'sI know, it's not your fault, and so they make up. ThankGod, because finally l might have a friend again. Yeah, and thenRachel says, like, but don't worry about me right now. It's likerule number sixteen. When your best friend needs you, you you need tobe there. Yeah. So, but before she goes to Lee, wesee Noah and chloe at a bar and she says that her earring was athis place because she stayed there when he...

...was gone some weekend. Where wouldhe have gone? That's what I want to know. Yeah, and likehe says that he was lying about this, so this wouldn't happen, like waslying about them hanging out, so this wouldn't happen in the first place. And so this part like bothered me kind of. She says, I'mone of the few girls that is not persuaded by Your charm or whatever,and I was like, are you trying to allude to the fact that she'sgay, or what are you trying to do? Because that's not how youdo it. What's they can't like, I don't know, I why?Yep, I simply do not understand. Like she should have just straight upsaid, like I'm I'm gay. So like maybe maybe she should know that, because, yeah, also implies that he tried to charm her. It'sjust very, very weird. Yeah, but we find out that there wasno physical cheating between the two of them, but it still makes it out toseem like he's the movie makes it out to seem like he's the badguy and it seems to really try to justify else cheating, which, yeah, you can't justify what she did. Like, I know, it makesno sense. And ever left Mrs Flynn to clean up the mess, whichis just awful to yeah, Alec goes to their mom for advice and she'slike I have there was like a lot of talking there. You should startlistening to each other, which I honestly they should talk, because I don'ttalk. Yeah, they don't talk or listen, I know, but I'lll decides to bring something. We don't know exactly what it is yet.When she talks to what's his name oi? Yeah, so then Lee's at thearcade, they're chatting, they make up and they also break a wishbone. That's what l brought, because it's rule number five. How is that? Rule number five? I know right, like out of all your rules thatcame up at the beginning. What scenario got you in that one?Yeah, it's very weird and he wishes that Rachel will give him a secondchance, but he gets the short end of the stick or the bone,and l's like, I'm giving US forty eight hours to be sad, andthen we have to have the kissing booth or whatever. HMM. And Marcotext her as they we e've the arcade and that says they need to talk, but she completely ignores it. And then it's the homecoming football game.Yeah, we and L are sitting together and knowing chloe, you're sitting together, and then somehow, somehow, Lee becomes homecoming king. Just how sense. I don't see the point of having that in the story. I knowthere's no point to that either. You just made the movie longer. Yeah, so then Lee and Rachel make some weird eye contact from across the bleachersand she like runs away crying or whatever. Noah and Chloe then are walking acrossthe field because the game's over, and there, I guess, tryingto leave, and the Marco we got him getting like all jumbled up withthese names. Marco comes up to well, he shouts at Noah from across thefield and says congratulations and then they kind of have this weird standoff fortheir like, you didn't mean that, you didn't mean congratulations. You're notcongratulating my brother. And you think that they're going to fight because Noah clencheshis fist. It's the Arthur vth literally and Um then Dub chloe, that'sher name. Chloe, kind of calms him down and they walk off andMarco goes to talk to l but it's too late because she already ran away. Yeah, and as a kissing booth, Yep, kissing booth time, andthere's just like a lot of awkward, gross kissing between high schoolers. Yeah, disgusting, honestly. I wrote. I wrote at the beginning of thescene. How much do you want to bet myles and Ali are goingto smooch? Oh, yeah, oh, that. I didn't know their names, but I was like, yeah, they're gonna kiss. Yep. Butso he's doing the kissing booth and he is blindfold on them leading upto the stage, but then Rachel's also doing the kissing booth and they blindfoldedher and then they like go to have them kiss each other and then theyrealize who they're kissing and everything's good again. There is a line in this thatlike really bothered me. He so, after they make up, he saysthat Rachel is the most important person...

...in his life. Yeah, is, but high school girlfriend of what six months, is the most know,it's a year. It's a year because since the last but they weren't.Were they dating at the last kissing booth? Yeah, I think that's when theystarted. Okay, his high school girlfriend of the year is the mostimportant person in his life, not his mom, not anyone in its family, not l and also, like he wouldn't tell l not to hang aroundbecause he wants her around all the time. So clearly l is more important.Yeah, and that's not a bad thing. I know, like yourhigh school girlfriend of one year probably shouldn't be the most important person in yourlife. Well, basically, they don't talk at all and everything's fine.They don't have shout any of these issues. Yeah, and elves, like Imade the same wish is Lee. I wish for them to get backtogether and everything worked out. Wow, wow, yep. So then chloeand Noah are at the airport because they're flying back to Boston, and Noah'slike looking longingly at pictures of Ellen him when maybe laugh about this part isthat it's actual pictures of them when they were together as a couple and weird. So He's longingly looking at pictures of his ex in real life when theywere together. And later after the credit when the credits start rolling, theycut to a blooper of this scene and he is like looking through the picturesof them together and he's like yeah, just looking at these pictures, reallytrying to get in the mood, like that's how much he had to convincehimself to feel emotions during this scene. But and basically the cooly like youhave to do something, just like go tell her you love her. Andthen there's like Ali, right, Yep, Ali comes up to the kissing boothstage and this girl comes up to kiss him, but he freaks outand then goes to find mile was in the crowd and then they kiss andit's great, but I don't know why they added it in. I lovehow all the jocks in the scene here, like you brew and like the reallybuff guys, are like cheering them on. I thought that was cute. Yeah, and then so now it's else turns to be the kissing person, and I was like, oh, so it's either going to be Noahor MARCO UP ON STAGE? I wrote that down and it's Marco, andmark was like, I hope my ticket is worth at least a minute ofyour time. And then they like talk about all their problems in front ofeverybody. Yeah, they're airing out their dirty laundry in front of this hugecrowd just watching this all go down. I don't I don't get it,but basically she's saying that like, I guess I did have feelings for you, but you're not the one. And then she's like piece, gotta gofind Noah, and I was like, Huh, I was actually right fromwhat I said at the beginning of the movie. Like she does end upwith Noah. Yeah, and she says, she says, quote unquote, shewants to hear hear Noah out, as if he has as if he'sthe one that did something completely wrong and she didn't cheat on him in frontof him. What it's making it seem like he's the one that needs toapologize. It's it's so ridiculous. And then she kisses on him on thecheek, like I hate when people do that, because it's just making itmore painful. Anyway. Then she runs to go get Noah and she makesit to the airport but his flight is boarding and she sees chloe waiting forthe plane and she's like where's Noah and she's like Noah left to look foryou. Yeah, he only brought me home so we could be friends.And also, how is she able to get to the the like the WaitingArea for how is she able to get to the gate if she didn't gothrough security? No, idea. She didn't hurt. Idea boarding pass?How? I don't get it. and Noah's but Noah's like at the kissingbooth and he's like he's texts, or he says meet me at the place. Who would know what that means if they have all these places like yousaid? Yep, I would assume it's the Hollywood sign, honestly. Yeah, so they go to this Gazebo from last time and then they run toeach other and he's like, I wanted so. I became friends with chloebecause I wanted to have a friendship with her like you have with Lee.And then he says he asks her, Do you Love Marco? And shesays no, no, it's always been you at that boot. If ifsomeone tells you, it's always been you, word of advice. It's always beenyou plus seven other girls who there or boys who they're talking to atthe moment. I know this from personal experience that if someone says to youit's always been you, it's not you.

You're not the one run, runfor the hills. So then they kiss and I was like, howdo they do this? Their height difference is way too big, and shedoesn't apologize for cheating on him either. There's there's no communication again, andso now she's looking at her college essay again and then she deletes the wholething and start over and it's graduation day. So we just skipped like six months. And she says that in five years it's not about it what Iwant to be, it's about who I want to be, and her essayis so bad. It's so bad, so informal you wouldn't be getting in. Sorry. She also is talking about like who she wants to be inreference to other people, Aka the boys in her life, and also likethey wouldn't know. They would be like, what are you even talking about?Yeah, I hate to break it to you, but if you eversound like that on your college essay, you should probably just not apply atall. And, yeah, save yourself the fifty dollar application fee. Andalso it's since it's graduation day. She asks Lee where he got in,like you would have known this two months ago, but anyway, she's like, I got into Berkeley. And then they asked her and she's like,I got waitlisted everywhere because your essay sucks. And then, or so we thought, we got and then you see that Marcos like watching this conversation godown and a friend says to him she's like, or he's like, it'snot worth it. But then, as soon as that friend walked away,he says yes, she is. So like sequel thing. But then,but then they want a motorcycle ride and Lee and Rachel a driving and they'relike racing up a mountain and they don't pay attention to the freaking road.I thought they were honestly going to get into an accident started on. Thatwas going to be the plot of the third movie. But so the movieends with her sitting in her room. She has two envelopes. She opensthem and she just got accepted into both, you see, Berkeley and Harvard.No, no, simply, simply, anyway, what do you think aboutthe movie? Well, as much as I absolutely, deep into mycore, hated this movie, I unfortunately have to admit that I also lovethe movie at the same time. Oh mind, I don't hate it.Any movie that makes you feel the emotions that we were going through, whetheror not it's anger, pure rage, sadness, disappointment, it's playing withyour emotions and honestly, like, if that's the goal of the movie,like, I don't know, I feel like any movie that makes me thinkthat much and suffer through all those emotions, I love it. I guess Ididn't love it. Stress me out, but I'll probably watch the third one. Yeah, hate it, but probably watch the next one and probablywatch it again. Yeah, I don't think I have there are no questionsto ask at this point. Yeah, I think we've gone on for toolong about this movie. Yep, it's just it was too long. Yeah, too long. Two hours was way too much, like this movie definitelycould have been at least an hour and a half, probably an hour andtwenty. Yeah, I wish they would have formatted it for a television becausethen we wouldn't have to sit through much. But well, this was a downgrade from last week, but hopefully we're taking a step forward next week. Yeah, Um, if you would like to, if you want more, more of how have we know? If one more of how have wenever seen this before? Feel free to follow us on Instagram at how havewe never podcast and participate in our weekly guests, the movie challenges, orlike us on facebook. Facebook is how have we never seen this before?And, yeah, let us know if you have any movie suggestions or anyany comments on our discussion. Yeah, it would be fun to hear fromyou all. Yeah, all, one of you. I think it's likefor Oh, all four of you. We love you. We love you. I love my fans. You're you're...

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