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How Have We Never Seen This Before?
How Have We Never Seen This Before?

Season 3, Episode 2 · 1 year ago

Wonder Woman 1984: "Animal Print, RAWR!"

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In Season 3, Episode 2, Lauren and Isabel discuss the latest superhero movie, Wonder Woman 1984. Join us as we discuss the MANY plotlines of the film, talk about the confusing rules of the magic stone, and debate the ethics on loved ones inhabiting a rando's body. 

And stay tuned to watch/listen to us take a quiz to find out which famous Chris we should date. You can follow along here: https://www.buzzfeed.com/ericaataylorr/plan-a-date-and-find-out-which-famous-chris-will-a-a78lx1sl2

If you want more of How Have We Never Seen This Before, check us out on social media: Instagram/TikTok - @howhaveweneverpodcast Twitter - @howhavewenever

And shoutout to Michael Beaumont (@monitorcomics) for the AMAZING artwork!

Okay, welcome back to how we never we don't do that here because their show is that we already have. Will do our into latter. Sorry, Um, yes, so, hi, guys, hi, it's been weird week in this country. You're getting this about a month, three weeks later, but it's been a weird week and I found it like, sorry to jump ahead real fast, but like I found it very ironic that in this movie they are in DC. I know it made me like want to go to DC, but obviously not now, like like four years ago, when like on a high school trip or like something like that. Remember when we went to DC on a high school trip? I do we have a picture of us? I don't. It's at school, so I can like show it, but we're kicking our legs up in front of the Washington Monument, iconic. It's really great at like I can't believe we did that. Like, not that it's like that weird, but that's ambarrass it's like weird, but like not that. Like I wear this hat anyway. I don't fit in. I'm weird. I'm a Weirdo. Like I was super selfconscious in ten grade. I'm super selfconscious now. Like why did I do that, like I'm glad I have that memory with you, but we used to do so much stuff, like when we go to the mall and like go into hot topic and like ree Catholic. You, good times. You. Yeah. Also, we got season three artwork from my friend Mike today or not. We didn't get it today. We got it earlier this week and it's so cool and you'll have already seen it, but I'm so excited for everyone to see it. Yeah, he makes us look a lot cooler than we actually are, unfortunately. Know, I wish we could be that cool. Yeah, but thanks, Mike. You're incredible, and I say that every time you send us art working in like wow, we do not deserve him, but anyway. So we watched wonder woman. One thousand nine hundred and eighty four, or like I feel like the way the movies title is, it's like world war eighty four, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, anyway, let's hope we don't get up there. I don't want to get two three. I'm fine with just two. Um, since it is a sequel, there's not like much to go over for like characters or anything like. There's Diana. She's wonder woman. Obviously, and her boyfriend's name is Steve. Correct. Yeah, okay, because I like kind of just came up with that and I didn't think they ever said his name, so I just hoped it was Steve. No, it's Steve. Don't work, not to ruin anything, but he's not. He's dead, but I'm allowed, but I'm dead. And we also have Barbara Go, Barbara Barba. She is a did they say like Gem Olages Jamala? Yeah, isn't there like a more technical term? That just like doesn't sound right. I don't know. Do you know who? My favorite, Gem Alla, just says Curio name, like Archie or something. Oh, Archie, he has the Curio shop. Oh, a curio shop. Yeah, yeah, my favorite guy. I love him. Yeah, I achieved the Webkins Crown, I think, twice. Great, big accomplishment for me, but anyway, yeah, so we also have Max Lord, is the other kind of main character. He's a villain, sort of. You know who the villain are actually in this? Everyone Know Kristen Wig and Gilt Gil good O, is that how Yo? Gal Gado, yeah, whatever, Gil, I'm sorry, but they are the villains. Further crime against humanity. Do you know what I'm talking about. No, do you not recall at the beginning of lockdown the first one? Oh, let me saying, I forgot. That's wow,...

...that was like ten months ago now, I guess. Yeah, I will never forget it. That's insane. I wow, these people do not deserve our support. So I guess they like finish filming this ten months ago. I don't care when they filmed it, they just should never have made a Messin I never watched it. So, like I didn't know who's in it except for her, for Gal, because I knew that she started it. For some reason, she starts it, and then the next person is Christen Wig, and then somewhere and it is James Marsden. No, I know that's really unfortunate. Um, but I knowshkin to movie. Yes, because we always ramble and ramble and Raboe ramble. Sorry. Yes, so this movie again, just like the last one, starts with hers like a child, and I don't know, I like I had. I didn't have like problems with this movie, I just didn't get into it the way I wanted to. And, like I it started like at this very first part, like I just don't get the point of it. Besides, like showing off all these beautiful women. Yeah, I was wondering, like the speech that her mom gives her, like when that comes into play. Yeah, like because this whole scene, like, okay, this movie was over two and a half hours long. This scene did not need to be in it. It was like a multimillion dollar scene. It did not need to be in it. It could have saved them so much money. I know. Well, I guess. Okay, so the one thing at the very end of this scene, I think it's like the trainer. I don't like know what exactly is she? The sister of the Queen or, like, I thought they were married. I don't know how you maybe they are, but like she says to maybe it's the mom, I don't know. She says to Diana that no true hero comes from lies, which, like, I guess it's supposed to be the message, but there's no like lies, you know, like yeah, there's deceit, but there's not lies, and he's not trying the a hero. Yeah, he's pretty upfront with his intentions of being a villain. Yeah, so that's why I wasn't like what, like, what was the point? I don't know, but you do have to give the actress that plays her as a child some props, because apparently, like she did all of her stunts herself, like the actual ones that were not like animated her. Like what, like riding on a horse? Yeah, okay, galloping that fast through some different terrains takes a lot of skill. Going down a slide. We but yeah, I just like did not get that part, which I feel like they thought it was cool, but yeah, I mean it was cool, but like I was it. It was unnecessary, I think. Yeah, so the like this part never matters again. So just moving on. Now we're in the S and it's very obvious from all the clothes and we kind of just see Diana sort of anonymously saving people throughout DC and I don't know why, like why does she want to be anonymous, like or like, I don't know, because they know that she's there. I don't know, I don't know. She's always like Hash and like it's a secret and it's like we get it, we get she tries to be like so lucky about it, but she wears that outfit every time she saves someone. Yeah, and so I'm like where's a lot? Why do you have to dress up to save someone, why do you have to put on less clothes to put yourself in danger? And like, if you really wanted to be anonymous, you could be like spider man it. Where's the mask? No ask in this pandemic. Yeah, it's just like I don't know. It's just like why bother trying, you know, but you know what I mean, like why would you do that if it's pretty obvious anyway? Um, I think maybe she doesn't like the attention,...

...like because of the like part of being like a true hero is not being like no, I get that, but just cover your face. Maybe she's an antimask I feel like she's not, but like she's know, she would definitely be an antimasker. Oh, but so her next anonymous adventure is there's a jewelry store robbery in this giant mall and these men they don't want jewelry, they want to steal the antiquities that they're like doing backdoor deals with. And she does this thing with this little girl where she like saves a girl and then they like wink at each other and it's supposed to be, like I feel like it's supposed to be that superhero moment you know when like Captain America like walks up to the little boy and it's like wow, I could be you, and it's just like not like that at all. Yeah, she's in a bad way. Also, if I heard that little girl, I would literally tell ever, and I know I'm right over one girl, but I I'd spilled being. Yeah, and look how did like no one else in that mall describe her to the police? HMM, like they all saw her. Also, why is she wearing heels? I didn't. Yes, that's like. Why is Wonder Woman's outfit healed? You know, why is it nothing? Yeah, why is her outfit like how's that supposed to protect her? Like even her second outfit that comes later, like that's also healed. And also just very like since waist trainer Eski. Yeah, like why do you have to like send your waist in like she's saving the world? Maybe have some like padding on there. So I'm sorry, but like when she like lifts her arms up and she's wearing a strapless metal shirt. Yeah, the girls are out to play. Also, in this scene there's a huge JAC Penny Product placement. That's the only thing you see behind her this entire mall. Fight scene and like I get it. Jac Penny, it's been a rough here, but you've been like going downhill for a while, I think, and this wasn't like the place to the product policeman, at least for me, especially when it's like the S, like you don't ye thought of like in that time period. Yeah, was like, I don't know, like I just think of JAC Penny. Like recently I saw a tick tock of someone like they went to Jac Penny and did a photo shoot. That's all those. Yeah, we should do that. I feel like that would be fun. So like maybe I went back. You got us. They're advertised word. Oh. But while all of this is happening, in the background you have like this business guy. He does like he's like the one of the main villains. His name is Max Lord. He does he's the owner of black what is it? Black Gold, but gold, yes, lack. They sell oil. Yeah, so they sell oil, and he's basically giving this like motivational speech to invest in his company. So that's that's important to note. Yeah, and honestly, like once this kind of scene ends, is just kind of like cuts to Diana and her apartment and it's like well, okay, moving on from her crime. But she she is spider man, which pop the mask because she's got like the normal job. Maybe that's now. That's it. Yep, Yep, that's the other one. I guess all DC comics are the same. Yeah, and she wears glasses to because that completely changes your identity, you know. Yeah, and she we see that she's like still in love with Steve. She's got like pictures of him, all of her, all over her apartment and like got his his watch, which I guess was like significant in the first movie, but I just don't remember it. To J one, I honestly do not remember the first movie at all. I could not tell you the plot of it. The first movie, I think, was better,...

...and I say that because of the one scene where she's like you mean you are lying. I think it. Do you? I think I remember that. I have that on like snapchat with a filter on it, where her face is like blown. That's really funny. I'm not explaining it well and it won't sound funny and I'm sorry, you can cut that up anyway. So I don't know what happens. Do me too. Yeah, you can go. I just like don't I have didn't take money notes the beginning and take money notes these no my notes. They get they wear out over the course of the movie. Because I'm so bored, I was on Tick Tock through some of it, but I think I have the gist of the movie. Okay. So now we are at the Smithsonian Museum in DC and Kristen Wig is beginning, Barbara, kristen wig is beginning her new job at the Smithsonian and wonder woman actually works there too, and we immediately find out, through the classic dropping papers and them flying everywhere, that Christen wig is clumsy and has no friends. Ye, so that happens. She briefly like talks to Diana and they seem to be like kind of vibing, but you know, it's it's good time. And then we the FBI comes through and drops off some of the artifacts from the jewelers the other day for them to study, and so Barbara and Diana are looking at the artifacts together. And hold on, I didn't write this down, but it was probably the most important part of the movie. They stumble upon this one stone looking thing and it's thought to be like worth only seventy five bucks, but they look at it even further and this guy comes up and asks, like says he wishes he had coffee, and immediately a coffee shows up, and so they're thinking like hmm, interesting, but then they leave it at the lab and decide to get dinner together, and so they're vibing and becoming good friends. And then Barbara is walking home from dinner at the park and gets attacked act and wonder woman saves her and then, instead of going home, she goes back to the lab and wishes on that magic stone that she could be just like Diana, and she wakes up the next day still at work, and the with her wish finally came she wakes up the next day at work and her wish actually came true and she's like instantly like cool, powerful, like a little bit stronger. But we don't get that until like she her powers haven't like fully developed yet. Yeah, it's like an earlier when they were first holding the crystal. Diana like thinks about what she would want her wish to be and you don't know what it is, but you know what it is. It's like she wishes that Steve were still with her, and there's kind of this like whish whenever you make a wish, wish, and that also happens with Barbara, and it hers is, I feel like hers is a lot more instantaneous, like all of a sudden, she like when she wakes up the next morning, she just like the sound, the sounds reply, she takes her screwt off, she has like legging underneath and she like instantly does the off the shoulder s like thing with her sweater. But for other people I feel like, like sometimes I feel like it goes really fast, but I feel like for Diana, for some reason it took longer, maybe because she didn't say it out loud. Yeah, it's also like kind of dumb because, like, imagine someone. You you can grant someone a wish and they say, I wish I could be just like Diana. Wouldn't you make them a literal like copy of Diana? Like how do they know exactly the type of thing that they're looking for? Like I would take every wish literally and be like, you know she well, she says she wishes to be like Diana. Maybe if she said she wished to be her, I mean...

...like her and what aspects, like yeah, like, Oh, I wish I could be like Diana. Okay, I'll give you her eyes, I'll give you her accent, I'll give you her hair, like you know, did she like list? I feel like I didn't write this, but did she like list things? I feel like she might have like listed a few things about her in particular, and then it kind of took that to the extreme, because she's in all powerful. What is she? Is She like a goddess? I don't I think she's just sitting Amazonian woman. Okay, I think they're all the same right, like they all have the same powers. But I thought she was special because she don't remember, but she like wasn't really her daughter. It was more like like an Athena kind of thing. Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm just thinking of a fairly oddparents situation where, like the wishes could get like, do you ever watch that show now? Did you ever watch that show as a kid? No, sorry, I have to hang up. Odd Casts. Um. Okay, well, I don't know. They sometimes they take the wishes to literally and say, like, say you wish for like. I'm trying to think of something good. I'm so I'm thinking of this show called the ten kingdom. It's like no, like no one's seen it, but in this like this guy wishes for a million dollars and he gets a million dollars, but then it had to come from somewhere. So that million dollars was actually just stolen in a bank robbery. So that's how he got it, and then the police show up at his store. Yeah, like something like that. Or like I wish for an unlimited supply of Tim Tam's. Say That and like all of a sudden you're like literally drowning in Tim Tam's, you know. Yeah, like, I don't see how this would ever work because, like how does the magic stone know exactly what you're wishing for? Yeah, I don't know. I guess it makes more sense when later on it's a person and like people can kind of understand what people want more than like a stone could. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Moving on. Yeah, okay. So after Barbara's like a little bit more like Diana, she that same day she meets the guy who was on TV earlier, Mr Lord. He's just he's says that he's going to be donating a lot of money to the to the the museum, because he wants to. There wasn't like any like real reason behind it. But basically he just wants the crystal and he's kind of just hanging out with Barbara and being nice to her because he wants the crystal. And I feel like again, like how did he get in there and like all of a sudden be invited into this Smithsonian? Like there's a lot that goes on in fundraising, especially for places like that, where you have to create formal documents like this. Joy has happened yesterday. Yeah, and we there's no mention of this guy being involved with the people who robbed the Jewelry Sore. So, like it's not like he could have known. It's not like he could have planted at least, like I'm sort of like coming up with back but like how would he have known that that's what was going to happen? I don't even know that the dreamstone existed in the first place. We ever find that out? Yeah, so, like really right after this he goes to his his building, and you're his own building, and later on we see when Diana and Steve Go there, that he has all these notes on it, like he's been researching it. I don't know how we can learned about it in the first place. But he has been like researching it. Okay. So, so do you think that he hired those people to rob that place to begin with? I guess it's possible. But when he wouldn't have that, he wouldn't have known that they would have screwed up, because the guy, so, the guy like drops a gun and this then all this like chaos happens. Yeah, so it's...

...not like he would have known that they would have screwed up and everybody would have been caught. Yeah, I mean like maybe he just was like, okay, I'm hiring this team to rob them, they get robbed, they themselves get the robbers get wrong. Funniest. Yeah, and it fails. And so the next days, like I guess I have to go give the Smithsonian a million dollars. Ye, have my dreamstone. How would he know that it's going to go to the Smithsonian? How, like how would he know like that the EBI is going to get involved? I mean, like the FBI obviously would get involved, but why would like why would they give it to the Smithsownian like right away? Maybe he hasn't in there, but like maybe there's like it's evidence, like they would need it right dude, this is the most logical answer we can come up, because they're stolen. They would want to return them, you know, they just like track where they from, like wherever they had taken them from. They think the United States government returns artifacts to where they belong, but they were stolen, killing me. Even if, like private collectors had them, like they would have like had documentation. I think you're seriously overestimating the US government. You're right, you're right. Um. Anyway, we're like get way, way, forever. Okay, moving on. Let's move on, yew Um. So we're wait. Mr Lord, like when he first goes to his building. Okay, Um. So Mr Lord then goes to his office and you soon find out that, like his he has this huge building and on the outside it looks really grand, but on the inside it's abandoned and deserted, and that's actually because his company is broke, because the oil industry is like maintained by like just a few companies, and all of his investors were actually a part of a Ponzi scheme. So it didn't work out and all the investors are pulling out, and so he, like his life, is fallen apart and his office is abandoned. He does have an adorable sun, though, named Alice Alister. Yeah, okay, his adorable son is named Ali Stir. He's a sweetheart, but then he hatches up an evil scheme to make everyone proud of him and to be successful, and he decides to like make sure that the museum is having this party so he can steal the dream stone. Yeah, I'm like, Barbara's really excited for this party. She like dress it like she's really like embracing her new found confidence. I guess why could she just like wish for confidence? She literally looks the same. Yeah, yeah, and like like she just like dresses really Nice because she likes Mr Lord, because he's just like paying attention to her, to be honest, and he kind of manipulates her into going to getting out of the Party and going to her office to have a good time, to do Sien smoochin, I'm closed door, but instead he like I guess they probably do something, but we just see him like grab the crystal from her desk and like hold it behind his back like that would have been uncomfortable doing that the whole time. But the whole time during sex he's just owing crystal water back. I mean, like what else would have happened? You know who? Just like there's one one hand free. That's it. But like the whole time all they're off doing whatever they're doing. This guy shows up at the party and tries to approach Diana and she's like get away from me, like who are you, like I don't even know you. But it's actually Steve. But it's not Steve. It's this random guy who looks like Steve to Diana and sounds like seets Diana, but is actually this other person. So, to explain it in a better way, we are seeing Steve from Diana's eyes the entire rest of the movie, but he everyone else in the movie is seeing him as a person he actually is. Yeah, yeah, that kind...

...of this is something that I feel like we need to talk about, because Steve is basically operating this random man's body. Right, this man had a life. We know that because his apartment. He had an apartment. It's like filled with stuff, like yeah, this man has a life, and so a where does his soul go? Like that man's soul? Yeah, it does. He just like black out for the the weaker. So that Steve's inhabiting his body. Yeah, that's my first question. Second of all, that leads like there's apparently like some controversy surrounding this plot in the movie because of like consent, because it's this man's body, but it's Steve Operating it, and they obviously like they have sex. So like this poor man is, hmm, is like unconscious and his body is like being put through that. I don't know, like it's an ethical dilemma. I know you're you're talking about ethicult Mr Classes, I don't know, because like obviously this would never happen. But like for I guess, like for all in times of first purposes, it is Steve, like that guy's just like not there. Okay, yeah, but picture this. You black out for a week, you wake up, you find out that the person inhabited your body has been doing heroin. Like what would you would you be upset? Yeah, but like you wouldn't know that someone's been inhabiting your body. So like it's like you just did heroin. We then that would be sea worse. Yeah, but like seems dead. Sweet, he doesn't. His soul is still around, it seems. I don't know. I don't know. I'm really not sure because and also in this universe there's no heaven, because Steve, when he dies, just blacks out. It's he was there's nothing. He didn't go to heaven. That's true. She's all the side so impressing. So this guy's just kind of in limbo. I guess that is that he died for a week. I'm having like anxiety right now. I don't know, I I don't know. I mean I personally think that it was wrong, but also, at the same time, how could have how could she have known that that's how it would happen? Why couldn't they have just brought his like body back? I don't know, like obviously in this universe magic exists, so I couldn't they have done it that way, like it wouldn't be the craziest thing to happen? Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know. Yeah, I thought that would be an interesting thing to bring up. Like I feel like you like, yes, you can make like the whole like concent debate and everything, and like it's not a debate, like there's you have to have consent. But I don't know, because it's not like. So we also see this guy the very end of the movie and it's not like he's like even remembers that he was missing for a week, you know, like it's clear that he's fine. I mean, how many times do you put a smile on your face when you're actually feeling okay? Like, clearly they didn't think this far ahead. Yeah, this is an extreme oversight on their end. No, like, but it's not us. But it's not, because it's not that deep. Did they not think that? To the dumb vishes would analyze like, think about how, like we are not the brightest people when it comes to analyzing films, and we've we pointed that out. You pointed it out, okay, and I'm even dumber. My pea brain thought of that. So obviously someone would big brain energy thought of that. I don't know, we need to move off. Okay, so that that dude steals the magic stone, right, and then Chris...

Pine, AK Steve, is back. Um, he's wild by everything in the future. And at the same time Barbara, her super strength is developing more and more and we see her at the gym lifting like extremely heavy weights and all the gym Bros are like wow and impressed by her. And then I didn't get this at first, because maybe I wasn't paying attention. But Max then wishes to become the dreamstone itself. So like, Oh, you can't get that, I wasn't paying attention. And so see, like imagine I wish to become the dreamstone, wouldn't I turn into a stone? Okay, so I'm thinking, you know the end of a laddin where he wishes to become the most powerful thing on earth or wherever they are, you know, like Jaffar does, and then he becomes the genie. He doesn't like gain all the power, you know. Yeah, but I don't know, like that's like the opposite, like it takes it very literally but at the same time, like it was the genie. So the genie kind of could interpret things in a different way, like he had a mind and house a rock supposed to interpret something. Yeah, I don't know, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, I'm not sure. And how did he know to wish for that? Like how did he know that he could take things? Because obviously, like no one else, I don't everyone else, every other civilization that had the stone collapse. So obviously they couldn't figure that out. HMM. And why would he look at a and be like oh, every other civilization collaps like, including the successful ones, because of this stone. Okay, I got it. Yeah, I'm not sure this. This whole movie is just like it doesn't make ball of confusion. Yeah, so it's the next day and at the wow all of this is happening, Diana and Steve are having their little barbieing Ken moment from Toy story three, where he's dressing up in all these clothes and she's like Oh, I really like that one. He's like no, not this one. I've ever seen toy storything? Yeah, I've only seen it once. So because I like I had an emotional price. Well, I think most people know what I'm talking about there, where he like gets in all those clothes and then she ties him up. But like that doesn't happen in this one, obviously. But Mr Lord has like started making his own why do you call him Mr Low mine Lord? What else you mean to call? Hebe Max Max. I wrote Lord and all of this because I forgot his first name. So like at the same time Lord is Max is at his office and has like started getting all these calls about his business because he somehow got someone to wish for his business, like he like what did he wish like that? Oh, he goes to his previous investor and is like don't you wish for this? And he's like sure, I wish for this, and then that happens and he takes the thing he takes is like to get him out of the way or something. I don't really understand how that part work either. Yeah, his so like in this like every time someone wishes for something, it comes out of cost, and so heat that his one of his investors wished for the business to be successful, but the cost was that he no longer controlled it and Max controlled it. Yeah, and so things are kind of falling apart in the world, like slowly unraveling, and Diana is trying to figure out why and she finds out that Max took the stone from Barbara, like she tells him like Oh, yeah, just like learnt it to I'm like, what's wrong with that? So Diana goes to his office building and it's completely mob with people all trying to get in on this business, because that's that's what he wished for. And so she kind of goes through his office and we see that hurt to get into the office, had to rip the like lock off a door and it was kind of hard for her to do it. So like you're kind of getting the idea that her cost for having Steve is that her powers are going away. And so we find out that he's...

...been researching the stone, like we said before, and she finds the base of the stone, like somehow that part didn't like disintegrate and on the inside of the base for the stone, she says, has the language of the Gods on it. And this is when I was like I'm so done with this, because they're just like, okay, since you don't remember the first movie, you're like what is this? So in the first movie, like the whole point was that aries is the one who, like it's the other God who like is making everyone do this, and I feel like in this it was just like, Oh, it's the god of what it is, like deceit or trickery or whatever is making yeah, it's like Doros or something like it's this God that's making everything go. Dolos, not Doro, but like I feel like they were just like taking something from the last movie and dragon it on kind of like, I hate to say this, I really hate to say this, how in national treasure to they do the same thing to do in national treasure one where they take, well, this one they take a flare and then they stick it in the oil. But in the first when they took the torch and stuck it in the oil, and it's just like you didn't need to do that, like there are other ways to light things on fire. But you know what I'm getting it. Good Lord, good Lord. I just think that it's a I mean, like I get that, like a lot of these, like these movie specifically, are centered around like mythology and gods and stuff. So like that part didn't bother me. Is just everything of it. Yeah, okay. So so then, oh, okay, so after this happens, they figure out that not Steve. This is going to be a tough one to edit. Okay. So after they figure out that Max is going to Cairo to do some business with some oil people over there, she, she is in Diana and Steve Decide to fly to Cairo to foil Max's plan and they do the dumbest thing ever by taking off illegally, stealing a plane, and then she's like, Oh, let me just make it invisible. Damn. Her problem solved and it's the only time they mention it. She's like, Oh, you know what, I've been trying this. I made a copy cup invisible. Let me try an entire plane and yeah, but never again in the rest of the movie isn't mentioned. Yep, they just stroll a plane like and also lot, like. How is the plane like taken off of radar? Like I get that it they can't see it, but obviously it's still a plane. It would still be on radar. Yep, that doesn't make sense. Why didn't they just get on a flight to Cairo? I don't know, because they could have just they did it the other way back. Yeah, I still have the plane. I don't know. But how would they find it? It's like the invisible bowmobile from spongebob. How did they find it? I don't know what that is. Okay, all right, you make me angry. So, yeah, she just makes the plane of visible and all her problems are solved and boom there in Cairo. And at the same time Christen Wig is turning evil now and she beats up some guy who attacked her at the beginning of the movie, which is like, okay, understandable, but she was mean to her her friend, her homeless friend, who she like gives food to. Yeah, Cho was mean to him. So I was sad, bad firm. He's a nice guy. Yeah, okay. So then Max is, we find out what he's doing in Cairo and basically he's meeting with this man who kind of controls all, I guess, all the oil in Egypt pretty much, and he says, like what is your wish? And his wish is that he gets all his land back, like that's like ancestrally his. So He grants him that wish and then takes his security team because he tries to take his oil, but there's something like he can't take here for some reasons. He takes a security team instead. Oh, because he sold all of his oil to Saudi Arabia. Oh okay, I miss that. So, yeah, that's why he can't take it. So then he's like traveling to the next closest place that has oil and Diane and see we're trying to stop him and we see that Diana is like...

...not as powerful as before, like even more so than previously, because she actually gets shot and she tries to like save these kids and then she like let's go of her rope and they fall so funny and like it looks bad and like the kids go flying. The kids go flying, and then she's like it's a secret, and it's like like why? Also the wall to Oh, and there's this giant wall that's built like the miraculously, so people can't travel through because another part of his wish was at other people can't get into his land anymore. Yeah, and there's like the wall is blocking off the water supply to like most of the people in the city. Yeah, but then so the last thing they do in Cairo is Diana Calls Barbara because she's been doing some research for her and barber says, like I found this Shaman and he's I'm going to meet him tomorrow. He's going to tell us like a little bit about this crystal and she's like all right, cool, I'll meet you there. So they fly back from Cairo to DC to be there the next morning, which is just I don't know. I guess it's somehow possible, but do they even have passed? Very difficult now they don't have passports. That's what I stole the plane. Yeah, but how did they do? They take the plane back. They never told us yeah, they just kind of show up. I don't know. Yeah, Oh, and at the end of this, mass controls half of the world's oil reserves and the Soviet Union is trying to invade Egypt. I think I think they were like trying, I don't know, I'm like not sure. So, like, please don't quote me on this, but I think they were trying to like tie it into real life and like the oil issues in the S. Yeah, so, which I can't say I know a lot about, unfortunately. I just think that with all of these plot lines running right now, that that was a lot to like like tie in. They should. They should cut at least one plot point from this. Yeah, definitely. There's like there's just so much. It's too much going on. It's like what is that? It's like Chanel's like take one thing off before you yeah, the house, like take one accessory off, take a one point out of the movie before you put it to the theaters. Should we play our game now? Yes, we're going to take a mid hopefully mid episode great, and play our quiz game, which is we're not the same as our guest the movie the week, but it is just like a wonder woman quiz I think we should do the one where we decide which Chris we're going to be with. Okay, no, obviously not directly, directly related to wonder woman, but I'd love to know if we'll be with Chris Evans, Chris Pratt, Chris Hamsworth or okay, so there's a bunch. But do you want to do the plan a date and find out which famous Chris will accompany you? Yes, okay, we let's try to get Chris Pine here. I know I want Chris Pine. I know he's Great. Let's try for him, but it'll be hard, I don't know how like, I don't know him. Yeah, I don't know him very well either. I can't say I'm met. Um. Okay, so this is from buzzfeed. It's plan a date and find out which famous Chris will accompany you. Okay, one. Where is it date located? How about you give me an answer and let's see if it's on here. Okay, like a park, okay, somewhere outdoors. Okay, yeah, Um. So what are we going to wear to this time, you meaning Chris? Which Chris? We don't know yet. Can you give me? Is it like like a style, or is it like, yeah, like what just plan our outfits for us? Are we wearing the same thing? Yeah, what will twin? We can wear jeans and that, it's like won't be in there. But that Hawaiian shirt that we both bought in cans. That's our outfit. Okay.

So and like some, I guess, sneakers. I don't know. So would you say about? Would you say graphic t shirt in jeans? descript. Okay. So what are we drankin? Is it like alcohol or like it's everything, everything. I won't like it, but for you we can do wine. Are we doing champagne or red wine? Read like friend, whine, I don't, I don't like. I've off. Okay, what's your main course? Oh my God, do you want me to give you options? Yes, please give me options. Okay, Burgers, Salad, steak, I'm just drinking TV, chicken fingers and something we've never we both never tried before. That's it's not an actual food, it's just something. Okay, I guess, because you'll be there too, we can do salads. So warming what you want. I mean, I guess you could do like a Veggie Burger, but I don't like, I don't know a burger. What if we just drank? Okay, we can just drink. That's for dessert. Anything that's not chocolate. Okay, it could be any of those. Oh they're all not talcolate. Okay, ice cream, ice cream. To split three of us, we just get a hold up, Chris. Obviously. Well, we could split fifty fifty, but that wouldn't work with three of us. We can dine and D we can pay for our own meal. We could pay and he tips. He pays for all. He pays. You pay for tip, he pays for all. Right. Or Dine and Dash. No, come on, you can pay for all of it. Would you go on a second date? Yes, with all of us could be. Well, it's still really good, so I okay. We got the man, the myth, the legend, Chris Evans. Okay, okay, that's fine. Honestly, he would be my top pic if we weren't reviewing wonder woman right now. Chris Evans is the Chris for you, smart and sensitive. This Chris would much rather keep the date personal then flashy and extravagant. Instead, he'd rather spend the night snuggling up and watching rom calm. Watching Rom calm. It's just your there's no a s at the end of a then add a stuffy restaurant. Who can't wait to watch rom calm with Chris. I don't know how we got him, though, because we like didn't pick like movie date or they're all in movies. No, no, like movie date, like it says. He'd like to watch a run, watch rom calm. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I feel like I would have got in Chris Hamsworth with them, like a outdoors you kind of thing. You know, I know, but it was just one of our answers that was outdoorsy. The rest could have been, honestly, anyone. Yeah, all right. Well, thank you for joining us for this little quiz, brain, and now back to the boof yes, okay, so they mere they miraculously land in DC again and they go to the WHO? What's that guy do for a living? He's like a teacher. Okay, they go to this this teachers apartment area and he knows a lot about the stone and he tells them that the stone has traveled around the world, specifically to civilizations that have collapsed catastrophically. So the threat is imminent here, like they need to get on top of this before the world collapse is because the s will is a little bit more globalized than before, and so they understand the stone now and they they get that it was made by Dolos, the God of Wise and mischief, and if you wish for something, it takes away another thing of equal importance. They keep using this like monkeys Paul Reference, which I've never heard, like I'm maybe it's like really like common and I'm just removed from Social Society. I've never heard...

...that before either. I don't know. All I know is they should have compared it to King Midas, because that's all I know. You know, how like like, Oh, I wish that everything I touched could turn to gold, and then he turns his daughter into gold. He's like wow, yeah, when, yeah, no, that makes more sense. And like also that they have to they can either give back their wishes or they have to destroy the stone. That's the other thing I don't get. Why couldn't they destroy the stone? The stone didn't exist. No, not them, not them before, like in all these civilizations. Why couldn't they just destroy it? They all got their wish already. I don't know what they were up to, like I get maybe, I guess destroying the the zone, would get rid of all their wishes or like maybe they died before they could do it because it reaked havoc on their civilization. But they, I thought they had like everyone was like, I'm not giving back my wish, and that's why they just kept collapsing because like somehow they all knew that this is how they had to do. I don't know, but I feel like if you were to trace back where where these civilizations went wrong, you would not find a stone. Well, obvious. Yeah, okay. And like so Diana's like, yeah, okay, like we need to give back our wishes, and Barbara's like, no way, and she gets the heck out of there to barbed thing to do. Like she's like, I want to be pretty, but like the thing is, like they don't get to choose what they lose. So, like was literally all her attitude that changed. And like okay, yeah, she has super strength, but like that wasn't that wasn't what she was complaining about before. Yeah, like yeah, you know, like the thing like if she just like acted confidence, she would gain confidence. Yeah, you know, like yeah, I wouldn't do that, but like I get how work. Honestly, she should have wished for a life coach. I could have been good for her. But so, while this is going on, Max keeps meeting with with people, like any powerful person, any person really, and asking what they want and then, when he grants through as he like, says what he's going to take from them. But he keeps getting really sick. So with each wish he kind of loses some of his health, which is, I guess, the stone like working within him as well, like because he's getting these wishes from taking from people in the stone is taking things from him, even though he is the stone, I guess. And basically everyone in the world is just going crazy because things are falling apart and Steve and Diana are trying to figure out what to do. So they go back to her apartment and Steve's like you have to give me up, like this is what you have to do, and she's like, I'm not going to lose you again, and she we also see that she has this armor from someone in her ancient civilization. Basically, this woman was left behind when the Amazons went to their island and they, all of the Amazons, gave her their armor to give her super armor to fight everyone in the world and basically Diane has been looking for this woman ever since she got ever since like Steve Originally died. She just only found her armor, which has wings. Yeah, so Lord's next are Max is like next thing that he wants to do is he wants to meet with a president and like, because he wants he needs to reach more people, because he's kind of like maxed out, sorry, like all of his the people that he could get wishes from. So she went. She so when Max goes to the present, he finds out about this broadcast thing that has particles that touches everybody in the world. So technically he's touching everyone at once while they're like watching him on TV. There's also another subplot where, like the president wants more nukes, like why is that your wish? Like his wishes that they had more and more such a Reagan thing to wish for, right.

And then there's like this like Cuban missile crisis again, sort of with the Soviet Union, right, yeah, that's what the U in the s. So I don't know, that was just like another plot that just wasn't necessary. And then they're the world is falling apart again. So they're kind of fighting in the White House, sort of like people fighting in the capital. Wait, someone said that. Have you seen that? Tick Tock, that's like Christian Weig like invading the White House and like fighting all of the officers in it. Someone said that's Caitlyn Bennett storming the capital of my God, no, I I didn't. Now that you said it, though, I'm sure it's going to show up. It's so funny. I'll send it to you later if I can find it. Okay. So they but they're fighting in the White House and Diane is really weak and Barbara's kind of has all of her power and she protects Max from Diana and then they kind of disappear and they're going to go to that broadcast. It's like an island in the middle of nowhere where this broadcasting is. So Dina's like trying to figure out what's do and seems like you need to give me up, and that's like it's she like kisses him goodbye and I get that it's supposed to be a touching moment, but I, like really felt nothing. I felt a little sad because I like Chris Pine a lot. No, like I like them together, but I was just like wow, like okay, like why did you give him up before? Yeah, I just feel bad for Chris Pine because he keeps having to sacrifice himself for the greater good. Yeah, that's true, like that's exactly what he did last time. Here he is again doing it another movie. But yeah, I just like didn't feel anything and I was like okay, yeah, Um. So then Diana has to go to this broadcasting place right by herself and she connects her lasso to a plane but then ends up flying, so she cannot fly, but it's it just doesn't make sense to me. But at the same time, Max and Barbara are on a flight and she he says, like you've proved your loyalty to me. Now you can make another wish, and she wishes she could be like no one ever was an apex Predator. Who says that? It was like, I want to be an Apex Predator. What? That's my that's my goal in life, to become an apex Predator. And then like, like that could entail so many things, like why can't she be specific, like and why was thin? I was saying about this later later on in the movie. was like so, like why does she pick to be what she is, but I guess maybe she didn't pick, or maybe she did pick. But like, why is it that she's a leopard or whatever? Like why is that an Apex Predator? Like I get that it's like a Predator, and but, like there are so many things, like why? It just it just doesn't make sense. and She just looks weird. Like, okay, your how are you going to go? You want to be well liked, right, you want to be just like Diana. Okay, why did you become a cat? Become a cat? It reminds me of when Hermione drinks the colleges potion with cat hair. Yeah, she turns into a cat. Yeah, Um, yeah, so that happened. Where are we now? I'm sorry, I jumped ahead with that. We're still at the broadcast. We're like going to be oncast station. Okay, so Max is now broadcasting all over the world and asking people to make wishes, and so everyone it cuts the scenes from all around the world. People are making wishes. How does everyone speak English and how does like everyone have a TV? Yeah, like, it does not make any sense. And so ever, it's making their wishes and suffering the consequences of that and all hell is breaking loose in the world. And Max's son, it cuts to him.

He's at his office, not the son's office, Max's office alone, pleading that his dad comes back. And then wonder woman now made it to Max's hide out after flying and she's finally wearing some real armor. Are Not a tiny little dress, a strapless dress, and it's actually what we were talking about earlier, the armor of the Amazon woman, the warrior, a Styria. And Barbara is now a cheetah. Why? I said that with a British accent. Also, what a dumb name for a villain. Barbara, Barb Barbie, I know, but like her actual it's like she's like it's either like leopard or Cheetah or whatever, like, but that's the name, like the name of the cat. Yeah, that's her. Yeah, that's her. That's like a villain in the comics. It's her arch nemesis, Cheetah. So unfortunate, I know, you know that. Tick Tock. That's like, what's the tea? The girls are flying. That's how I felt at the scene. If you'd like, you can, okay, sure, take it away. Um, so, wow, she's fighting Barbara, like she's really just really getting destroyed, like, even though she has her powers back, Barber's like more powerful than her somehow and just destroys his armor that's supposed to protect her from the entire world. That she does this thing where she like shrugs the wings off of her armor, and it's not cool like it's supposed to be. It's just like she shrugs and then she sticks her like down poses. But anyway, she then electrocutes Barbara in the water, because now she can also control lightning and electricity. I don't know where all of these powers came from, where they've been for the last sixty years. Yeah, because she's old, like she's old. Yeah, I don't know, like why is it all now, all of a sudden, you know? But she kind of takes barbar out of the water, placed her to the side and then she goes into the broadcast room to try and stop Max but there's like a lot of wind and I don't know why there's so much wind, and she somehow like he still like talking to everyone in the world, but she somehow takes her lasso and wraps it around his ankle and has this monolog about like being a good person and all this stuff, and she and Max is like, Oh, I don't care, but she's like, I wasn't talking to you, and she was like broadcasting to the entire world by, through her lasso, touching Max, but it wasn't like her face, it was just as Golden Light. So she supposed to be like God, odd, I don't know, but she's just basically just tells everyone to renounce their wish, which, like, I don't think would work. First of all, I mean a lot of things wouldn't work. Yeah, that's far. And like then we see the whole nukes thing, and it's the one thing about the nukes. So like when they show Russia, no one is bothered, like it's not. It's like nothing is happened, like no one's made a wish and like nothing's gone wrong in Russia, which I found found weird. Also, like we're who, are they planning on nuking from Russia? No, the Russia sending news to us and the US is sending them to Russia, I know, but do they have the capability? Do they have the capability at time, at that time, to send nukes from from actual Russia? Because you have the Yes, Sae Peter Bird. Yeah, in the background. I don't know. I'm not really sure how nuclear technology has developed. Maybe, maybe, maybe, but they're all these wishes. So maybe they just like wish for long range nukes. One wish in the world and it's for long range. Yeah, I don't know. But her lastso is also showing Max like his child and how his child is...

...like freaking out and he's like where's my dad and his death, and like his chat Ali Sir is just like running on the highway. I don't know how he gets to the highway. She run onto the highway. It's very strange. And then Laurd is finding like I renounced my wish, and then everyone else starts to renounce their wishes and everything kind of either reverses or just like is destroyed. And then Lord and his kid like reunite. Somehow. He immediately got back to his child. Yeah, and he wasn't detained for his war crimes. I I don't know. And then all of a sudden it's Christmas and everything is good and no one cares anymore and this guy shows. There's so much damage to from what he what he caused, I know, but like and I don't know how much was reversed and like how much just like went away. HMM. But we're in this Christmas village, it's snowing, Diane's there, and then this guy that was steve but wasn't Steve and was originally this guy just shows up and he's wearing an outfit that Steve had tried on and it's like Ha Haha, I like your outfit, and then Diane is flying again and the movies over. Yeah, and at the end, like I don't know if you got this far because you were so like you didn't like it, but like towards the very very end, after the credits, there's this scene where there's a woman walking through, okay, you did, went through a like a street and something falls, but she catches it and she turns around and it's her. It's a steria, but it's actually Lynda Carter, the original wonder woman, which, out of all the scenes of the movie, that was my favorite. Yeah, I mean it almost made up for the two and a half hours of my life that I've wasted this yeah, I thought that was like cute to like bring her back. Yeah, I don't know, like, looking back on it, I feel like this movie was made for like boys. Really, yeah, why would they make her dress like that if this wasn't for the men? I mean it was all like like that is her outfit, like they're not going to like change the classic wonder woman outfit. They could have made her skirt just a little longer. They could have done that, but find some coverage for her. Like it was right out. Sorry, go ahead, or they could have also given her like some shorts to under the skirt. Instead, it's just straight like underwear. But at least it's me out of metal, not the UNDIS. Maybe they are, they don't look like it, and maybe it's like like breatheable. I don't know. It's just like how are you going to create a movie empowering women and then not provide any sort of like armor for the woman fighting bad guys? But I mean she has Shin Guards, kneepads, those wrist things, oh, those are really protect her from the literal bullets that are being fired at her. Like, I like guess because she's a got, whatever she is, she can move really fast and she's like superhuman. So yeah, but also she's like I feel like she wouldn't want to wear that, you know, I feel like she likes to the you know, she dresses a little more like modestly. Yeah, I guess, like maybe it's because that was like her outfit even on the island, and like it was like the the how the headband thing was from another ancient warrior, and the headband is the least of my words. I don't know, I don't, I don't know. I just think that this movie was made to appeals to I think that this movie was made to appease the male gaze. You can all argue. MEAN, aren't all movies? Yeah, to be on like, but you're gonna disguise this movie is like a feminist movie. She can't get like she has to have like Steve in her life, you know, for to help her. I wouldn't call this if him in this movie exactly, but they try to pass it off as one, do they? Yeah, like well, like, I...

...don't know, I didn't really get that from or was that in like article? I don't know. It's like like supposed to like the I think it was a woman who directed it. She she like thinks this is a feminist movie. Like just because the main character is a woman doesn't make it like a feminist movie and like think about like all the sexism that the characters have to deal with in the movie that they just brush over. Yeah, yeah, it's frustrating. I Like I wish this was what do I say that? I feel like I say that a lot, like I wish this was better. Like I had be careful what you was for it. Yeah, I don't know, like I think cutting in our or like forty five minutes out of this movie wouldn't made it so much better. HMM. and like all the random powers, like I don't think it was necessary. And like the beginning thing and other like plot lines. I don't know, it's just didn't it's not, as felt like too much. Yeah, and I like the only way to have like a female, like a woman hero in these movies is like for them to have superpowers, like insane superhuman strength, to be able to defeat the bad guys. When you have, like think about Captain America, like he has one power really and that's it and he can do anything he wants with that. But for her, she has to have all of these things to be able to defeat like one person. Yeah, and I realize I'm mixing DC with marvel okay, no one come for me. You. Yeah, I, yeah, you know, slowly disappointed. I. Yeah, if I were in college, I'd write an essay about this movie. I'm taking a female up. It's called made to kill female violence in film. Taking that classes semester. So interesting. Maybe I'll learn a thing or two and we can talk about it. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, so, I mean, yeah, we're both disappointed, I'd say, with this movie. Yeah, but despite these setbacks, we will be watching another movie for next week. Oh God, I it's going to be very different. We have it planned. We have a few planned. I won't say it aloud. Oh wait, I'm excited for next week. Good, okay, I feel better. Okay, but yeah, let us know your thoughts on wonder woman in one thousand nine hundred and eighty four, or world war eighty four, as we dubbed it. If you want more from us, you can see our lovely faces on Youtube, or you can just hear of voices on spotify or apple podcast or wherever you may get your podcasts, or you can check us out on Instagram, at how we never podcast, or on twitter at how have we never, or even on facebook, and now we never see this before and Tick Tock. We did make a tick tock. I don't think there's anything on there yet. Now what when these episodes are up, there should be, because you'll be seeing us being weird and some highlights from our recordings. Yep. But anyway, thank you for listening and we'll see you next week. Bye. Bye. Piece out how I stopped recording. We don't stop recording or restart recording. What I didn't start? Okay, we oh, okay, did that work for you last like yeah, worked really well. It just took a little while to download everything. Okay, I feel bad because people we always trash movies and then then people comment and they're like, Oh my God, I love that. Like what do I say? Like, if you like, how about we didn't, ha ha, it was interesting. I don't know.

I don't know what to say to those. I just okay. So what are the three things? Um, we could say, like how we discuss all the how many plotlines there are, how confusing the rules of the the stone are. Okay, hould on, let me let me type this out, or and how unnecessary the first see one, maybe, how what's girls fighting girls is not okay, and how we hate no, Oh, we could do like the we discussed the how ethical inhabiting someone's body is. Okay, ethics. Okay, you just said that to me then, like whatever. Yeah, okay, your mumb'll case. Hell's wrong with her? I think she's choking on you know how like Jeffrey Star has like a small windpipe and he had to get it expanded. No, it's like a small throat. No, like a condition some people have. My mom has said my gosh chokes on everything. I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, you know. Okay, I said it. Oh, I thought I said it to someone else by accident. For No, you said it to me. I got the notification ground. Do you want to say that this this week? Sure, what'd my hair do? That goes like like my hair does. I too, were like here's like the when it's like not straightened. It's like here's where it's like the craziest, and then you can look at that. That okay, your hair has an hourglass. She's okay. Sorry, I had to calm myself. Okay, okay, okay, hi everyone, and welcome back to how we never see. Never Mind, we're going to try to come. Sorry, sorry, sorry, it's just like your man's a blooper? Are you trying not to laugh? Like just comes out good where you know? Hi, sorry, Talk. Okay, hi everyone, and welcome back to how we never seen this before. This week we watched wonder woman. One thousand nine hundred and eighty four. Join us as we discuss how many plot lines there are, how confusing the rules of the stone are and the epics of a loved one inhabiting a Rando's body. Oh, Rando's body, random dude. Okay, of cool. And then do we have to do the this is a podcast where two best friends. All right, where is the actual like description? Hold them, I'll just...

...bring up on spotify. Did you update the spotify one? HMM, I don't know. Oh, yeah, I did. Cool. So, basically, do you want to do half of it and then I do half of it? Sure, do we just say this word for word, or should we change it? I mean we can just say like this is a podcast where two best friends watch like conic like TV films and trending TV shows we've never seen before. Each week will discuss and different movie, a show from asilonnial perspective. Okay, okay, so what part do you want to say cane the first part? Yeah, okay, or should I say how we that? Like? Should I say the name or should I just say this? Oh, maybe say the name, but every ready. H How have we never seen this before? Is a podcast where two best friends discuss trending movies. I'm try not to read it because I don't want I my eyes to move. Yeah, I put it here. I have it like right on my computer. Okay, do I just say each week we discuss a different movie or show from a Zellennial perspective? Yeah, you can, it's okay. Yeah, try this again. How hope we never seen this before. Is a podcast where two best friends watch iconic films and trending TV shows that they've never seen before. Each week we discuss a different movie or show from a Zellennial perspective. That okay. Now I'm going to stop recording before this is takes up all the space. Yeah,.

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